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It’s always so strange to me that we don’t see the same bombastic support from the tankies over news like this, surely this is another genius move which underscores the futility of Western sanctions, right? Another 5d chess move to bring Ukraine to it’s knees, or dismantle the petrodollar, surely? 🙃

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You think the kids that sat at the back of the classroom, saying learning math is a waste of time because they’ll never need to use it, can form an opinion on this? They see the words “interest rate” and decide this news is completely irrelevant because they can’t understand it.

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you are aware russia hasnt been socialist for decades right?

russia is a failed proto-fascist state.

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Yes, they’re aware. They’re also aware that ML types will support Russia regardless, because no evil is too great so long as it even mildly inconveniences the West.

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thats because we cant compare the evil of the west with russia.

further entrenching US power is really bad for everyone not on the west.

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-4 points

They aren’t different today than they were then

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5 points

now thats just false

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-9 points

Hard for them to respond after they were all banned from Lemmy.world. Really easy to be smug when you have no opposition lol.

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In case people are unaware, limmy.world defederated from the two major Tanky instances (Lemmygrad for Russian supporters and Hexbear for Chinese supporters). I’m not really sure why the above comment is downvoted. It’s basically correct, though using the wrong terms.

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7 points

.ml is plenty tankie too.

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2 points

They’re aware but they still foam at the mouth over imaginary enemies and will downvote anything that stands counter to their crusade.

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1 point

Thanks for the background. I knew there was some defederation going on but didn’t realize it was so political. Somewhat disappointing tbh

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-59 points

Bro people is with the jews now, they provide more impactful videos

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-105 points

Are the tankies in the room with you right now?

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54 points

This joke’s getting as stale as the “attack helicopter” shit your alt-right counterparts say.

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-50 points

I’m sorry, I have no idea what you’re talking about.

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25 points

Not on this instance since defederation, thankfully. Doesn’t mean they cease to exist

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5 points

Defederation? What happened?

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59 points

The Bank of Russia, the country’s central bank, has now raised rates by 7.5 percentage points since July

Holy crap, 7.5% in (basically) 1 quarter. Imagine trying to buy a house and having your loan repayment amount jumping faster than you can get paperwork filed.

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So your comment made me go “lol, imagine buying a house in Russia.” Meaning my preconceptions were that most in Russia didn’t have the means to own a home.

But then I’m like, I don’t actually know that, let’s check it out.

According to this site home ownership in Russia is over 90%. So what you outlined is a real problem for people there, and changes some of my mental picture of Russian life.

The more you know!

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I suppose 30 years of mostly declining population has probably significantly reduced the pressure on the housing supply

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I still have question how even stagnated population would even pressure housing supply at all.

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9 points

90% sounds really high? At least compared to the states where it seems a vast majority is renting??

No idea the data on this, just going off my anecdotal experience.

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8 points

Everything was owned by the state during Soviet times. Then the people got the chance to privatise their homes for pennies. Now everyone is an owner. That happened to all countries which were a part of USSR, not just Russia. Renting is a very weird concept over there. You only rent if: you travel a lot for work, you’re a poor student in a different city and your uni didn’t provide accommodation, or you’re an alcoholic who lost their home.

Source: born and raised in USSR.

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7 points

90% own houses, but evidently a much lower percentage also own a washing machine, judging from the souvenirs the conscripts have been bringing home

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I was surprised as well. It would be worth confirming the dates from a second source, but there are some ready possible explanations for it as well. It could show a large number of multigenerational households. It could relate to the distribution of the population in high and low cost areas (rural vs urban likely). So it does seem high, but not impossible.

Cheers!

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9 points

It’s complicated by the fact a lot of flats were privatized after the fall of USSR. It’s like a boomer situation in the US. Many still live in what their parents claimed.

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Hold on, 90%? I guess that would include the whole family in the home as the home owners, because otherwise that is an insane amount of single occupant dwellings.

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This number aligns with my personal experience

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If home ownership is 90% that doesn’t sound like a big problem for the country. If only 10% are renting or looking I can’t imagine that would have much of an impact on prices with demand being so low. Business investment is a problem for sure

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People have children and need to get a bigger place. Or their children grow up and move out, so they downsize.

Higher interest rates keep people in places that don’t fit them because it’s more expensive to change.

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It’s not that I didn’t think anyone had the means, but that there would be a lower percent than they have due to wealth inequality. And yes, we are a product of our environment, and much of the western media covers the bad behavior of oligarchs. I don’t routinely get exposed to contemporary slice of life vignettes of other countries.

Lastly, when you try and shame others for showing that they learn, challenge the internal biases that we all have, and change their own opinions, you only serve to show others the calcified state of your own perceptions.

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Offtopic (because it has nothing to do with Russia): in Argentina the inflation of the local currency this year reached at least 100% annual.

But people there use USD fiat for purchasing real estate. And use USD/EUR for saving.

So even if the local currency is a mess, people moves using foreign currency for important transactions.

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The Bank of Russia (back when things were so bad they had to halt their stock market) has also forbid people for using more than small amounts of foreign currency. I believe people are limited to the equivalent of 10,000 rubles, or $100 per week.

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0 points

American moment

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I mean you would be really dumb for having a variable rate loan.

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I wasn’t talking about variable rate loans. I mean by the time you started the process of getting the loan there’d be one interest rate and one expected repayment amount; and by the time you got to signing and locking in the rate it would probably have gone up by about a point and half at that rate.

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Oh yeah for sure. Gotcha. Yeah I bought a house a year ago, and the rate was 5.5% when I started looking. Went up to 6% by the time I found the house and locked it in. That half percent actually represented a lot of money.

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buT tHE sANcTioNs dOn’T dO ANyThiNg

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Part of me is hopeful that this means something will eventually break, but it’s also hard to get past some of the initial predictions I was reading when the war first started, that Russia couldn’t keep up the war longer than a few months, that Russia was going to collapse at almost any moment. Now it seems like Russia is converting to a permanent wartime economy and that this thing is expected to drag on for years to come. It makes me wonder, even when Putin eventually dies, does Russia just continue on with the war out of sheer momentum, because the next person knows what a shitshow things will turn into if they try to end the war?

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when Putin eventually dies, does Russia just continue on with the war out of sheer momentum

My prediction that in such event war will just stop, Shulman’s prediction is war will be immidiately forgotten as mass delirium.

“Time will come when Putin’s mansions will be shown on federal TV”.

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I’d love someone knowledgable enough to chime in on this.

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Perun is absolutely amazing and goes into complex detail. Any of his videos are top tier.

https://youtu.be/Q9w17Ne1S0M?feature=shared

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://piped.video/Q9w17Ne1S0M?feature=shared

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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I think Ekatering Shulman has some videos about war for english-speaking audience.

Though she talks about social and political aspects, not economical.

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Not sure this is going to help much when the ruble is tanking internationally, state reserves are frozen, sanctions are still taking effect, and property is being seized from oligarchs, all while a misguided war is being waged at full tilt. Pretty sure it’s just putting more pressure on the wrong parts of the economy that are already about to break. But, I’m no economist and Russia’s gonna Russia, so whatever.

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and property is being seized from oligarchs

Not sure why this is mentioned as tanking ruble.

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