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They also take more federal spending than they pay in taxes. The states are on welfare, not just the people.

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Red counties in Blue states are usually the ones taking more then giving also.

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Kinda makes me think this is why they want to give more power to the Republicans because they are convinced it’s the people they elected who are sustaining them. When really they are the ones holding them down.

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Conservative policies have literally never been effective either socially or economically. They only funnel money from the poor to the rich. That’s it.

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I don’t know, it sounds like it’s pretty effective for the rich.

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The richest are in Blue states, since you need a strong economy and skilled workers to make an innovative company.

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Whether that’s true or not, I’m talking about the funneling of wealth away from the working class. Plenty of that happening in red states too.

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It’s the (insert current minority scapegoat)'s fault.

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Republicans are the party of self fulfilling prophecies.

Oppress minorities into poverty - > stop programs to eradicate poverty - > complain minorities are poor and criminal - > rinse and repeat.

Elect corrupt, incompetent politicians - > politicians get rid of competence in government and shift money to political cronies - > complain government is ineffective and corrupt.

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You forgot highest crime. Most murderers. Sure, they like to point at Chicago, but the top cities are in red states.

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Here’s the top 20 rated cities for homicide. List is less simple because they take into account other factors, but Chicago is #27 (rated #13 based on solely homicide rates)

Source (2023): https://wallethub.com/edu/cities-homicide-rate/94070

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The biggest problem I have with that chart is it only includes the 40 largest cities. The city I live in is in a deep red state and is run by a Republican mayor. Our homicide rate is 6.5 That’s enough to put us at #20. That’s worse than Chicago but 3/4 of a point but because we have a population that is a 1/3 the size of the cut-off for the chart we don’t get mentioned.

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Isn’t Washington, DC our country’s capital or something? Is it #1 on the list because it has a higher rate than other places or because there is a smaller population living there, and its popularity attracts a broad variety of people who dont normally live there? Like why is usa’s main capitol the #1 in the list?

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“per capita”

This is a statistical term meant to signify that this is an average based on the number of residents in the area. DC is number #1 because of it’s large amount of murders compared to the small number of residents.

If you’re going to compare crime statistics, most statisticians divide the number of a crime (homicide) by the city population then multiply it by the largest unit of measurement they each have in common (usually 100,000).

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Short and long of it: DC is the “city-est” city… Because it was carved out as a small patch ahead of time, only the most urban areas fall inside DC, whereas the more peaceful outskirts and suburbs that would normally dilute the crime stats are excluded

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The kicker is these are mostly predominantly black cities run by Democrats. Especially DC.

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The article literally says “Blue Cities Have Higher Homicide Rate Problems Than Red Cities”. Am I missing something?

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One thing to look out for: it’s pretty hard to objectively compare city crime rates because the city boundaries might include nicer or worse neighborhoods that dilute or concentrate the crime rates.

That’s why DC is at the top of the list… The way the city was defined, it’s the “city-est” city on the list.

You could also look at St Louis, MO vs East St Louis, IL. would it be rational to conclude that Illinois is DRAMATICALLY worse based on this data?

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lol such great logic

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Poor and uneducated people, as a whole, always more tend to vote conservative. Conservative parties around the world know this and strive for/want to keep this condition

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Is this true globally or a USofA thing? On oneside of my family the entire lineage is working class in East Scotland. THey are died in the wool Labour voter’s and won’t entertain any Conservatism, when Labour shifted more central under Blair etc a few switched to voting for Socialist candidates, one went nationalist, but from my understanding this is the norm there.

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I can’t really provide a good source, didn’t find a proper study by a quick google search, I believe it would be hard to track worldwide. But here in germany it’s definitely the point with the party AfD.

And i mean it makes sense. Right populist politicians providing simple, easy to understand solutions, that don’t work or even harm their own voters, for problems that they’re addressing, that they made up, blaming easy targets, mostly foreigners who didn’t do shit, for it. No need to think on your own if you have a stronk Führer to follow, promising paradise for you.

It’s also easier to focus on a smaller group that you feel more affiliated, familiar with, than to think about absolute fairness on a bigger scale and make concessions. It’s easier to shout “they’re stealing our jobs” than thinking about being part of the problem by fucking up the economy of the country they came from. Or support the countries development, because that way they’d lose a useful scapegoat

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Your observations are similar to my experience as well. Conservatives I know are regular people who, I think, feel overwhelmed by things they don’t understand and whose self-protection response to fear and change is anger. They essentially want to simplify the world by reducing diversity.

One thing that I find interesting about this group is that most of them used to stew relatively quietly until imposed upon. I think that the rise of social censure for politically incorrect speech has had a strong rallying effect on them. That’s why people like Jordan Peterson went from zeroes to heroes on the right. I hate to say it, but I think we on the left made a huge tactical error by aggressively regulating speech through social censure. Obviously, conservatives have always been out there in large numbers, but the imposition of rather doctrinaire political correctness, combined with the connecting and “outing” power of the internet, has led to them becoming much more vocal and politically active. Now, the right and the left have become not just rivals but mortal enemies.

There are also the religious extremists who want to remake the world in the image of their holy book, but that’s a whole other nefarious kettle of fish. They are rather cynically using the anger of the populist right to forward their agenda. There is no better example of this than evangelicals lionizing a moral retard like Trump.

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Very true, the danger of the “other” is very easy to whip up some support against and create a sense of something to unite against… scary how easy a populace is to manipulate

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Simple solutions for simple people.

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