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Because they are fucking Tankies funded by Russian interest groups. Their agenda is to sow discontent and distrust in America. Divide and conquer… They should be removed from YouTube for their Ukraine coverage. We need a purge.

Dirt? No? But it’s plain to see. They produced a video justifying Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. They also only really focus on how America was terrible in the past, and all the crimes they’ve done and other bad shit. Yet refuse to focus on the modern problems that we face.

I miss the 2020 primaries when leftist conversations were dominated by domestic policy. I hate foreign policy with a burning passion

Their agenda is to sow discontent and distrust in America

If you’re content or trusting in america then you’re not a leftist

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We need a purge.

Lmao openly calling for red scare and mccarthyism now I guess. The “tankie” online attack failed to produce the results they wanted.

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History has had a million red scares, why can’t we have just ONE brown scare?

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Eastern front of WWII was pretty scary for the fash :wholesome:

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Isn’t a purge something tankies would do? Isn’t that something Stalin is kinda famous for?

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It’s something everyone does if they are competent (and frequently even when they are not). The interesting part is how it demonstrates they aren’t discussing social squabbling but an irreconcilable ideological difference with the anti-imperialist “tankies”.

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I miss the 2020 primaries when leftist conversations were dominated by domestic policy. I hate foreign policy with a burning passion

Social Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of Fascism.

We’ve got hundreds of military bases strewn all over the world doing godawful evil shit, but god forbid you try to bring that into a discussion about democracy, what our state is doing, and what it ought to be doing.

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was about to post that quote., gawd this is why I hate Murican succdems, the third world can bleed as long as we get some succdem policies at home. No different than any right wing ghoul’s view of the world. Sanders and the squad are garbage, the only decent Succdem is Corbyn.

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the only decent Succdem is Corbyn.

Not true. There are decent south Americans ones. They’re usually anti imperialist

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the third world can bleed as long as we get some succdem policies at home

And the thing is, it isn’t even realistic. Domestic and foreign policy are inextricably linked. The enclosure of the global south is a very fundamental part of the immiseration of the imperial proletariat. Every time we topple a people’s republic and replace it with a band of gangsters. Every time we knock off some once in a generation labor leader so the extractive industries can be marketized and bought out by finance imperialists, we create the conditions which drive deindustrialization and put the imperial proletariat at a disadvantage.

How is some handlebar mustached auto plant worker from Detroit supposed to compete with sweatshop laborers literally living under the boot of a collaborationist military dictatorship. How is a small family farm in Pennsylvania supposed to compete with some big agra factory farm in New Mexico running entirely on exploited migrant labor? Our foreign policy, along with immigration policy and trade agreements are absolutely fundamental to producing the status quo we live in. If we want to have programs like the Green New Deal or Medicare for All, first we need to have leverage. We have none as long as the one trillion dollar a year war machine is able to crush any progress made towards this in the global south.

The entire point of US foreign policy is to ensure any superior alternative to our way of life is strangled in the crib. If we ignore that simple fact, they will strangle us just as easily.

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also all Americas money goes to dumbass wars if you want free healthcare that money has to come from somewhere and the obvious expense to cut is all the murder

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The sun never sets on the American Military

You know, I used to think The sun never sets on the British Empire was just a weird sort of hubris the Brits had – like they went around saying “Wh-ell, our empire shall neveh fall! Afterall, wh-e’re the best of the best, by Jingo!” It was only very recently that I realized it was much more literal than that. The Empire covered so much of the planet that it was always daylight somewhere in Britain’s territory.

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When asked why they don’t like discussing foreign policy:

Because discussing any kind of foreign policy with leftists and liberals is infuriating and I’d like to get some healthcare or stop cops from beating the shit out of the people in my community before I worry about smashing imperialism. It sounds like “America first” bs but I just think it’s much more realistic to get leftist domestic changes before we get major changes to foreign policy

Oh no, you did a US chauvinism

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