I know that after you leave office as POTUS it is some sort of unwritten rule that you withdraw from politics.

Why did Trump not withdraw?

Also why isn’t he a senator or congressman during Biden’s term?

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Unfortunately political systems are often held together with “tradition” and “gentleman’s agreements”, where conventions dictate how people should behave. Politicians typically followed them because it is seen as the honourable and right thing to do.

However, it seems to be a recent trend among the hard right that politicians just ignore those conventions because:

a) those conventions are inconvenient b) honour means nothing to them, and c) nothing actually enforces those unwritten rules - so there are no consequences for ignoring them

Similar things have happened here in the UK as well. I guess our political systems both assume some degree of good will & trust in its representatives, and it generally turns out that trust is misplaced.

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You make a great case for getting rid of implicit rules and making them explicit at least within the current political environment (I mean the resurgence of fascism and other inhuman currents)

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It’s not typical just for the right around here, the left does it as well. Who does it more… I would speculate they both do equally.

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Can you give an example? All the ones I’ve seen are either from the (far) right, or a direct reaction to the (far) right bucking traditional rules.

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Can you give an example?

No, they cannot.

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Yes I can. One of the prime ministers we had was convicted but abolished by the president. He was in a left oriented party, the president was in the same one. He didn’t retire from politics, he went on to become our prime minister.

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Just to be clear, your statement is disingenuous at best. You didn’t even provide a single example of evidence or fact to back up your claim, but used your own “speculation” as an ultimate authority. You really just sound like someone severely ill informed.

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Scroll down the comments, I did provide an example. If you want more details, PM me, we can discuss in private. I don’t want to disclose publically the country I live in.

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Still waiting on those examples… 🙄

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I’d have to disclose the country I live in for the examples.

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You can’t say “no politics intended” and then directly discuss politics. The answer will invariably include politics.

Trump didn’t want to be a politician. He wanted to be president. Being a senator or congressman is a job, but being president is a mark of prestige. If he can become president again, he will, because it makes him look good. There’s no point for him in taking a lower position with less power.

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Are you looking at this picture, reading this post and then attempting to seriously debate the author on the merits of their argument of no-politics “inteded”?

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All excellent points except he has a real dire agenda if he is president again and it’s not just to make him look good.

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When people say “no pun intended,” it is always right after they’ve made a completely intentional pun.

When a person says “no offense [intended], but,” it is always right before they say something intentionally offensive.

What I’m saying is that maybe this grammar “no X intended” doesn’t actually mean that literally they don’t intend X, but instead that they want to lessen their culpability for exactly intending X.

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When people say “no pun intended”, I like to say “none taken”.

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No comment intended, but… oh, well. Too late now.

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You are right, but what I meant was, that I didn’t ask from a political point of view, just wanted to understand from a technical point of view. Like I understand that once you have been president you retire. But trump didnt retire. So since he is continuing on, why in the meantime isn’t he in congress or senate?

I thought obama, bush, clinton are just not in senate or congress because they were president, following the unwritten rule.

So since trump didnt retire why isnt he in congress or the senate. I think he would have gotten a vote in florida or other such states.

yeah but what you say makes sense, so it is just to do with trumps personality profile…

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Trump actually promised to leave us alone if he lost. He also suggested that he’d move to a foreign country.

“If I lose to [Biden], I don’t know what I’m going to do. I will never speak to you again,” Trump told supporters at a rally in North Carolina.

Trump made similar remarks in 2016 when he rivaled Hillary Clinton for the presidency: “I don’t think I’m going to lose, but if I do, I don’t think you’re ever going to see me again, folks,” Trump said. “I think I’ll go to Turnberry and play golf or something.”

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If you never admit you lost, did you really? (Yes)

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Yeah, That was common passive-aggressive bullshit, e.g. If I don’t win I’ll take my ball and go home.

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Here’s an article to give you a little more context historically :

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/11/16/few-former-presidents-have-run-for-their-old-jobs-or-anything-else-after-leaving-office/

But the answer to your question is probably found in the fact that Trump never ran for any other office, much less served. (I could argue he never served as president either, he only took and had others serve him, but that would be bringing “politics” into it.) He ran as an “Outsider,” who was unstained by the inevitable compromises of working with others, who was going to run the country like a business. He did. If you look at how he ran his business affairs, it’s pretty consistent with his presidency.

He’s got a lot of power still in the Republican Party, without having to spend any time working on legislation or living in DC.

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He doesn’t want that. He wants to be the guy who was “wronged” in the last election.

I mean, he’s making bank off of donations just from beating that dead horse. Why work when you can just scream and cry and have people throw money at you?

Also, considering the size of his ego, he probably doesn’t want anything less than being the top guy. That’s all that matters to him.

Another poster said something about a “gentlemen’s agreement”, which isn’t wrong. The US has (generally) tried to maintain the peaceful transfer of power. They didn’t plan on a scumbag throwing a bitch fit to keep that from happening.

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I suspected being a senator or congressman would be actually quiet difficult and Trump may not be cut out for it. thanks for your insight shrewbacca

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No problem, fam. It’s an honest question, so I don’t blame you for asking.

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