The Chrome team says they’re not going to pursue Web Integrity but…

it is piloting a new Android WebView Media Integrity API that’s “narrowly scoped, and only targets WebViews embedded in apps.”

They say its because the team “heard your feedback.” I’m sure that’s true, and I can wildly speculate that all the current anti-trust attention was a factor too.

322 points

K, I’m still not using Google search engine anymore. And once I find a replacement for any other Google services and devices I have, it’s out with those as well.

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Both leaving reddit and leaving google s.e. were two things that I thought would be harder than they were.

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Just need to install Linux as your primary OS and your transition to software freedom will be complete.

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Doing so on the desktop is easy enough. Getting rid of Android appears to be a much harder challenge, though.

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I use it for work but at home with gaming and stuff it’s just not sustainable

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I still worry that leaving Reddit is going to make it tilt to the right. I spent a decade posting there in the hopes that it would nudge people towards sanity.

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I think it probably already is somewhat, but there comes a point where trying to change the system from within becomes futile and complicit.

I’d rather be out here making a better place.

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The right use it and all other social media sites for coordinated disinformation. No matter how much you try to combat it you’re going up against people/ideas with deep pockets and a lot of resources meaning your voice is just a drop in the bucket.

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Leaving google isn’t hard.

Leaving YouTube specifically, however… Well, it’s been getting easier as content seems to be less and less frequent or quality.

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This is true, I still use youtube and I don’t see it changing soon since there are no viable alternatives.

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I use piped/newpipe etc. and simply support creators i watch via patreon/direct donations/merch. Less money for shitty ad company more money for creatives.

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Maps is the last one to replace. There are so many ads now that I’ll tolerate a lower quality alternative.

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7 points

Leaving YouTube specifically,

https://grayjay.app/

I’ve been using it. It’s actually pretty great.

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Nebula is a good alternative

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leaving reddit is easy leaving google is pretty damn difficult

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The hard part is the cost difference (I haven’t looked terribly deeply yet) Family Proton (3TB) is 395 AUD (when you sign up for 2 years)

2 TB, 125 AUD per year for google drive, and it’s per year.

Pro-rata that’s literally twice as expensive, and you have to sign up for 2 years to get that rate, which makes moving my stuff a hard pill to swallow :(

Is there a plug and play service that’s as good as proton without the hefty premium?

(The single plans are even more steep, 24 months, 158 AUD per year for only 500 GB…)

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I replaced gmail with protonmail and everything else with nextcloud. Couldn’t go back.

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Hosting your own nextcloud I’m guessing?

If so how did you install it?

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Their docker stack is pretty simple to setup

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Nope, I don’t have a server and I also want to secure my files in a different location so I paid for hetzner.

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After a lot of privacy switching I finally did try NextCloud, but I couldn’t get port forwarding to work on my Internet and gave up… For now

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You are probably behind a nat. I contacted my isp and they disabled it, since it works perfectly!

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2 points

Question: can email from gmail be imported into proton mail?

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Yes, they even have a walk through on how to do it.

https://proton.me/support/switch-from-gmail-to-proton

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Based

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My concern is saving my email and photos before my account is randomly banned one day with no customer service and no recourse. God only knows what data they already harvested from when I used to back up my photos with their service.

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Just grab a copy using Google Takeout, then after that use Syncrify, FolderSync, Resilio Sync or something else to automatically copy your phone media to your computer.

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Definitely the first step is to get more SSDs. I was traveling a lot and barely used a desktop or even a laptop for 6-7 years. I’ll check out those sync systems, thanks.

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Honestly. Off the back of this debacle I switched to Firefox and duckduckgo. Previously I used to use the shit out of incognito because I hated that when I searched for something once that I then get that thing popping up everywhere else in ads etc. Since the switch I no longer get the feeling of being stalked.

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NoScript helps a lot, too. I suppose other extensions also. It’s horrifying how many sites embed Google and Facebook tracking, including ones that really shouldn’t like medical sites and banks.

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DuckDuckGo has an extension that blocks trackers.

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8 points

On the topic of this, what is the best alternative out there? A few years ago I’ve tried a couple options, out of curiosity, but the search quality was super poor for anything that’s not in English, and the accuracy of found content wasn’t always there

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Best? Kagi. Best free? Probably bing or searx

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I reckon Kagi is the best search engine out there. It’s paid though. Second I’d have Qwant followed by DDG.

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This is something I wrote in another thread earlier but it’s relevant here too

A security guy popular in the internet, Ollam, recently left Delta’s program because they are changing it to be more pay to play vs miles traveled or something. Delta walked it back but he’s sticking to his guns. In his rant, he said something poignant. Something to the effect of “if your significant other raises their hand like they’re gonna hit you, but they don’t? The time to leave is now.” (Video)

(Quote)

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https://ecosia.org as a search engine :) Uses bing in the background (and newly also google), but your data isn’t sold (AFAIK).

Or https://duckduckgo.com

If you want opensource there’s YaCy

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I’m on Kagi but I did the one time payment and am unsure about whether I’ll extend. Results are good but 10 dollars a month isn’t insignificant (cheap plan is orders of magnitude less than what I need in searches)

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I tried kagi and wasn’t impressed. For all but one or two queries the results were exactly the same as ddg. Not to mention they had that stupid metric stating 78%+ unique kagi results for every search, even though that was blatantly untrue. They seem pretty dishonest as a company.

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I used Ecosia for a long time (almost 5 years) but the search results are pretty bad. Often I had to use another search engine to actually find what I was looking for. DuckDuckGo is pretty good, Brave Search is OK as well but SearXNG is my personal favorite.

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I adjusted my entire digital life so I can do everything without ever connecting to Google services. I block them in my self-hosted Pi-Hole, on NextDNS and in my OPNsense Firewall.

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They’re just starting it smaller scale. Within a year it’ll be pushed out to everyone broadly.

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They get the permissions for the little thing that is worded vaguely enough to them funnel people into the larger thing

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This is literally going to be what they did for FLoC. Basically release it as topics.

Google absolutely cannot stop tracking everyone at this point. I’m pretty sure they’ve put the entire house on the bet to track people more and do everything to ensure that Google Chrome tracks every aspect of your web browsing experience.

So while WEI is dead, I think Google’s boat is so far out to sea now that it’s either try this again a bit more gently or watch the ship sink. Everyone said FLoC was dead and they absolutely put it into the web browser with Topics. Nothing convinces me this is any different, they are absolutely going to, and I dare say have an existential need to, put this shit in everyone’s browser.

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Victory!

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I wish they did, so chrome could loose some market share

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Problem is big sites you’re forced to use (banking sites, work HR systems, etc) would’ve made shitty decisions and required it to use their site. It would be like the old “you have to use IE 6” era

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Banking site: We’ve implemented the Web Integrity API because security is important to us.

Also the banking site: Your password can only be six characters.

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@ryper what? That’s bizarre. Is this a US thing??

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Various state and federal accessibility laws would’ve made that a very questionable decision for a lot of industries. Given that it would cost money simply to get programmers to implement and might lead to more costs from legal challenges I suspect a lot of sites like banks and the like would’ve avoided it.

Now when it comes to basically any news site, entertainment service, social media, online store, or anything else that makes extra money on ads and harvesting user data? Oh yeah, they’d implement it in a heartbeat.

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no, websites would implement and force you to use chrome

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thank FUCK

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