Thankfully no guns were hurt during the incident.
-Republicans probably
The problem is there wasn’t a nearby cop that could have shot everyone, that would have sold the problem.
This is so American. From the availability of firearms, to their immediate use upon a perceived threat, to the economic situation that would have him evicted, to the insane sentence of 100 years for a 66 year old who needs an oxygen tank. Just sad all around.
I don’t think 100 years is insane, it’s life without parol without actually saying it. He shot two people tried to shoot another and actually killed the youngest.
Other countries don’t follow the punitive approach to criminal law, but rather a reformative. With the facts we are presented with it actually seems more like a failure of society instead of just one man. The sentence is absolutely ridiculous.
There are cases to reform somebody, and I fully agree that we must try that. In some cases. Which this is absolutely not.
Yeah let’s reform this 66 year old child murderer.
He can repent and do good works behind bars just fine.
You know, I’m all for rehabilitation, but some people just don’t merit having that effort wasted on them.
What the hell are you going to reform in a 66 year old man who needs an oxygen tank? Who made the choice to kill children?
I don’t want to reform someone like that, I want them removed from society and if you cared you’d feel the same way. If you kill children, you lose your membership in society, period. Just throw the key away on him, and if you want to argue about it, go be his bunkmate.
reformative
Europe has lower crime rates because of fewer guns, not because of some enlightened prison system. Crime is created by need and opportunity. Punishment barely does anything and rehabilitation doesn’t solve the root cause of crime.
who needs an oxygen tank.
My first thought upon seeing that mugshot was that a lawyer might be playing up health issues for sympathy. That’s how American this is. Source: American. Sorry, USA. The rest of the continents do not deserve our shit reputation, problems aside.
That does happen, but this person does seem to have confirmed medical issues.
It’s okay, just now on the news I saw that a man successfully shot and killed his 21 year old son, so the universe is now balanced.
Why didn’t the 8 year old have a gun to defend herself with? That’s the only thing that could have saved her life!
The people downvoting you are the same people that argue that if we arm more people, we can solve the gun problem. And each downvote is an acknowledgement that their argument is garbage.
Or maybe it’s people that think this sort of rhetoric is tasteless when talking about an event where a kid died.
Yes, the man should never have had access to a firearm. But a child died for having the misfortune to be born to this sack of shit. That’s the takeaway here. Not some opportunity to try and stick it to the strawmen in your head.
These sort of “hot takes” are nothing more then mental masturbation, looking for validation from people who already share your own beliefs.
Seriously take a step back and think about the fact that you just built up some fucking narrative to place yourself as the hero against a horde of people lesser than yourself. That’s your response to this news.
You sure showed all the pro gun jackasses! They definitely are bothered by your post and absolutely seething! Whatever makes you feel like you’ve done the superior thing and that you think the right things to think.
Your views aren’t wrong, you’re just being a tool.
A child is dead, and you’re more invested in finding a way to feel superior to others than anything else. Fuck everything about that.
So this article makes it seem like he’s got dementia and was under the spell of a delusion when shooting his partner & daughter. But it’s written so vaguely that it’s hard to know for sure. So I found another article that seems to be much more clear about what happened:
TL;DR: 66-year-old man is in rough shape; has Hepatitis B, Emphysema, and COPD, and needs an oxygen tank. His partner (a much younger woman), their daughter together (8 years old), and his son from a previous marriage (18) all came to his house. The article doesn’t say what happened in the conversation, but he apparently became enraged thinking they were trying to get him out of the house. My guess is that they were trying to get him to go into a care facility due to his many, many ailments.
Dude saw red, grabbed a gun, and started blasting. Shot his partner, then tried shooting his son, missed, and hit his 8-year-old daughter in the back as she was running away from him.
So it sounds much less like dementia (though that could still very well be a factor), and more like a miserable piece of shit reaching for a gun first to solve all of his problems.
Honestly, the facto that he could have had dementia and still could access a gun is not really the better option, is it?
I’m not saying it’s better or worse, just that it would be a different story. Dementia changes people. My grandmother went through it; she was an incredibly sweet person before Alzheimer’s, and then once she started sunsetting, she became vindictive and paranoid. Thought people were plotting against her or trying to poison her.
I posted this update because the original article was really badly written, and it was hard to figure out what actually happened.
I think a lot of people commenting have been fortunate enough to not have a loved one, or even someone they are close to succumb to these ailments. I’ve had a relative and two older ladies I grew up with pass away as completely different people than they were during the 30+ years I knew them. The hatred, vitriol, unhinged, and unprompted behavior was gut wrenching. Their sadly wasn’t much of a support system other than what they could get with Medicare and the community of people that only stuck around due to who they were rather than what they had become. It rocked my world and was life changing on my outlook on a great number of things to see in person how the most loving, sweet, caring people I could ever imagine knowing turn into monsters. Two of these women would start baking cookies for us kids growing up if we stopped by unannounced and loved nothing more than an unprompted visit turned to an evening of cards. Their last 3-5 years of life was not who they were, it was a disease, and it was scary.
