Former President Donald Trump was indicted for an unprecedented third time on August 1, adding another set of serious federal charges to the mounting legal issues he faces.

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Look at that man’s face.

The living embodiment of everything I despise about my own self, distilled and propped up, for us all to marvel at. What a time to be alive.

Dear aliens,

I’m sorry. My species is a stain upon an otherwise beautiful nothing.

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We need to handle this carefully. I feel martyr vibes coming from all of this bullshit if he is found guilty. Maybe it’s the part of the US I live in, and the political slant of the people therein, but I see him and his supporters using this to do something even more epically stupid than trying to invade the capital.

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We been fucked lol

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On the other hand, if we’re afraid to prosecute insurrection leaders because of fear of resulting violence, that’s kinda definitionally terrorism (and specifically losing to the terrorists).

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I’m not American, but I’ve been imagining a world where magas would take over Washington with guns.

I don’t want it to happen, but I see it happening. Republicans are anti government.

It would be quite entertaining, though. Not great, but still entertaining.

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Honestly good.

The dipshits of the republican party are already committing acts of terror in the name of protecting insert fake concern here

Like I don’t know why we’re treating them like a volcano about to blow, it’s been blowing for years now.

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I agree, but I don’t know what could be done differently? If people refuse to acknowledge a single thread of evidence that Trump tried to overturn a legitimate election, what can be done to reassure them if he’s put in prison for doing it? The options are give him a fair trial, and sentence him if found guilty or just ignore his crimes completely.

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Heckin yeah

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Money seems to be the difference. I’ve been through the legal system and let me tell you that I wouldn’t be out campaigning if I had three indictments. I’d be sitting in a cell waiting for trial or a plea deal. The fact that he has been spared the same humiliation that anyone else would have been is a crime in and of itself.

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indicted = charged.

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The difference between “charged” and “indicted” is who finds probable cause that you committed a crime. If it was a prosecutor, you are charged. If it’s a jury, you’re indicted.

Accused, legally speaking, is a noun meaning a person who has been arrested for or charged with a crime

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Well, there’s also “being accused”.

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TIL

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I’m not American, and I don’t know exactly what the legal differences are between “indicted”, “charged” and “accused”. When is he going to be put in handcuffs and detained in a jail cell like a normal person would be if they were suspected of committing a crime (like stealing a handbag for example) but not convicted yet?

He is getting slightly better than normal rich person with expensive lawyer treatment.

America, as a pure service economy has prices for bribery and extortion as well as minimum service levels for the legal system. If you pay for economy (with your life) you get a defense attorney appointed by the state who sits across from the judge and DA you’re going to have to deal with, and has lunch with them, or makes deals in the bathroom… They’ll fight to make sure their life doesn’t get disrupted a whole lot and they can keep defending the endless stream of defendants.

The middle tier is the “hire a reptable firm, and get a junior associate” level of service, that’s where you get someone who’s overworked, and desperately trying to keep all their partner’s cases going, and they can spend 1/10th of their time on your case, they don’t have any worries about not having a job though so they can dedicate the time in court to defending you.

The top tier is the “hire a reputable firm, and you get a named partner” they care about their reputation, and make sure they only take cases that will make them look good. And they look good by doing the best damn job they can in front of the cameras, in their filings, and in front of their client. You get the white glove treatment, and 90% of the time of the junior associates helping the partner.

It’s no wonder why you typically only get the “Go home and sleep it off” result from an indictment from the highest tier of service.

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That only happens for poor people. Rich people get to live at home until they’re convicted

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12 jurors will decide on his guilt (the standard is proof beyond a reasonable doubt in a criminal case) after reviewing evidence during his trial which will probably happen next year. If found guilty, the judge will choose a sentence that’s within guidelines outlined in law. Then he’ll be pardoned by the next Republican president.

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The real weirdness happens if he is found guilty under state charges (in New York) and wins the presidency. The federal president can’t pardon state charges - he would take the oath in prison!

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Unless he’s the next Republican president and pardons himself, I wouldn’t be so sure that he’ll be pardoned.

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Trump has such a large fanatical following that it’s almost certain the next Republican president will use a Trump pardon as a poker chip for gaining party support on whatever plan he needs pushed.

So personally I think it’s almost certain Trump will be pardoned.

But it’s possible he could die in prison before that happens.

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The jury selection process will need to be particularly thorough for this trial to avoid a bias one way or another. It would be interesting to hear what questions they ask of potential jurors.

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I am so relieved that the special prosecutor is defending the rule of law with these indictments. If the Republicans (and not just Trump) got away with trying to overturn the election we could lose our democracy. We still can, but at least they are going to trial against this would-be tyrant and some of the people who helped him.

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You kinda already did when the founding fathers wrote checks and balances into the constitution conveniently forgot that political parties are a thing.

There are no checks and balances if the ones that are supposed to check and balance you are on your team.

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