How is reddit post protest, did it really win over protesters? Did the ones who left make a dent? Or like all things before, did it ultimately do nothing?

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I’m here now and not there. So I guess it at least did a little something 🙋‍♂️

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131 points

Here and not there too. I saw my last post when Apollo got cut off.

It was difficult to figure out how this works at first and wait for the Memmy TestFlight, but now I’m happy.

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42 points

I haven’t used liftoff but Memmy is also quite nice!

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17 points

Agreed, liftoff has been super smooth so far

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8 points

I have been using liftoff also but it is very difficult to find new communities not on your instance or on lemmy.world through the app I couldn’t figure it out at first glance so I add them through a web browser and then can access them on the app

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My dude, it’s ok to shill Lemmy/Fediverse. I’ve been doing it to people I know IRL that use R3dd!t.

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I have stuff all idea how half of this works and how I’m doing it, I saw a post recommending liftoff and it’s been easy enough to blunder through. I’ve tried using the mobile web interface for Reddit and it’s like pulling teeth.

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6 points

I checked it a few times on a web browser but only a handful. Pretty much done after apollo was killed while I was browsing. It was weird watching the app die in real time

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21 points

Same here. The day boost went down I moved here. And so far, even though I miss some communities, the overall quality of the posts is much higher. I can’t wait for boost lemmy app to come out.

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1 point

Replace Boost with BaconReader, and that was me except I saw rumblings of it before the API change and went ahead and made the move because fuck unfettered capitalism. Even if this doesn’t last, we tried and made a stand and can enjoy the results while it lasts.

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5 points

Here and unfortunately there too. Because movie and tv series discussions don’t exist yet in here so i have to use reddit for that. But now i only use it for like 20 Minutes a day instead of 1-2 hours + now i block ads. So yeah it did something

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Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using an URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !moviesandtv@lemmy.film

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That’s just movie news. What i want is discussions. You know like there are subreddits like r/blackmirror and they post a ‘black mirror Season 6 ep 1 discussion.’ and everyone post there opinions after watching it

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4 points

I’ll discuss Sopranos with you everyday if you want

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4 points

Fugedaboudit!

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Do you really need to? I could understand for like mental health or financial advice, but I don’t think like entertainment is that essential to keep using and participating on reddit. Which is the worst since participating is content creation that increases engagement from other users who then respond to the comment.

Anyways I recommend a reddit front end if you must like libreddit or teddit. And Stealth for Android which is an app that lets you use a teddit front end. No account and use of front ends for less data for Reddit to collect is the ideal way to go if lurking must be done.

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I do really need sometimes. You know some movies/episodes hit so hard that impossible to not talk to others about it, but i have nobody irl that watch that type of stuff so i have to talk with internet strangers.

Also yeah for mental health too.

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I still circle back because there’s still just way more discussion on Reddit. I’m still using RiF though, so I can’t post or vote

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5 points

Here and not there too. I saw my last post when Apollo got cut off.

It was difficult to figure out how this works at first and wait for the Memmy TestFlight, but now I’m happy.

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4 points

Still looking for a RIF lemmy clone for android. Started with jeroba, on connect now. But nothing like rif yet.

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4 points

It’s not perfect but I’m quite happy with wefwef.app

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1 point

Thanks, will try it.

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157 points

It really really hope Lemmy takes off. For me, there’s enough here that I’m set. I look forward to the apps getting better and the platform getting more stable.

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If you’re still having issues with apps, try wefwef.app. I have no complaints since I started using it.

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I’m actually on the TestFlight for Memmy and it’s getting much better very quickly.

But I was an Apollo addict and that is a very high bar.

Wefwef reversing the colors on upvotes and downvotes triggers me, and at least on iOS it has a pretty annoying WebKit related bug where it stops scrolling until you tap something.

Memmy is quite good though, the functionality is there and the polish will come!

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The main thing that got me on Memmy over wefwef is probably stupid, but it’s the haptic feedback on swiping to upvote.

It’s like a comfort blanket after Apollo was shut down

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I was using Mlem more but this latest update to Memmy really looks great, and afaik it’s the first of what I have to add the ability to hide posts (at least on iOS), which was an essential feature for me on Apollo. Now I just want to be able to change my browsing swipe controls to hide and save swiping right like I did on Apollo! Aesthetically it’s looking really good too. I like the Apollo-esque themes.

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Only issue I’ve had with wefwef is that I can’t seem to subscribe to communities using it? Like if I go to a sidebar, there is just no subscribe button. But if I go to the same sidebar in my browser, I can subscribe just fine.

Anyone else have this issue?

edit: Just tried again after posting this, and it seems to be working ok now. I’ve updated it like 3 times in the past 2 days so maybe they fixed it. Neat.

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5 points

I don’t want it to absolutely explode in popularity to the point all the drama follows with it. I’m kinda liking being with a lot of savvy app users who contribute right now.

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2 points

Agreed. Lemmy is very nearly active enough for me, so once the big apps like Sync start rolling in it defo will. Beyond that I don’t really care if Lemmy never gets as big as reddit.

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125 points

This feels short-sighted. The odds of the protest having a major and immediate impact were always low. It’s not like the suits were going to have a sudden change of heart and realize they were alienating their users. The majority of Reddit’s userbase weren’t going to suddenly leave the site forever. But that wasn’t the point.

Here’s what’s changed since the API changes were announced:

  1. Reddit’s responses to user concerns and protests have alienated even more users than the initial changes themselves, showing users exactly how Reddit’s administration sees them.
  2. A whole bunch of mods, devs, and contributors who put in a lot hard work improving Reddit for free are now much less motivated to do so (if they’re still willing to do it at all).
  3. The protest raised awareness of federated Reddit alternatives, which have grown substantially as a result. A lot of those people who helped improve Reddit for free are now turning their attention to kbin and Lemmy instead.
  4. Reddit is on a clear trajectory. They’ve shown they will continue making user-hostile decisions and antagonizing their userbase in pursuit of further growth.

We now have an established alternative to Reddit that has reached a critical mass for growth. A lot more people are now working on making the fediverse better, and communities are forming that will attract new users on their own. From now on, every time Reddit makes another move like this, more people will move over (or get closer to moving over) and Reddit will drop in quality even more as a result. If there’s ever a Digg V4 moment (maybe when they kill old.reddit), the fediverse will be much more prepared to take on the mass exodus that results.

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It’s remarkable to me that Reddit could have let one of their PR drones write a post that essentially took seven paragraphs to say, “Sorry but we have to” and it probably would have mostly blown over.

But Huffman’s ego took the wheel and he had to make it personal. Instead of just leaving, people are actively cheering for Reddit’s downfall.

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8 points

It always amazes me that these idiots don’t have a think tank which has great ideas for them and can tell them when their own ideas are shit.

If I was rich. Absolutely 100% would do this. It would be like cheating at life.

It seems like everyone who runs a large social media platform believes we live in a meritocracy and they’re somehow geniuses.

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Naw, cheating at life is if your Daddy owns an emerald mine in apartheid South Africa, then you get smart people to do the thinking and PR for you.

There’s a risk that you’ll start to believe your own PR and try to do it yourself, though. I can’t imagine that going well.

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Saying that it’s over and the Reddit won is a bit naive. The majority of the subs that I used to frequent have come back online, but they are definitely still protesting. ProgrammerHumor is making new troll rules based on majority vote every week. Madlads made everyone a mod. Many subs are posting John Oliver or troll versions of their original purpose.

It’s not over. Will they succeed? Who knows. But Reddit is currently a completely different place than it was a month ago because of the ongoing protests.

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59 points

As a digg refugee I can say that I am done with reddit, too much dejavu here.

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51 points

Yup. I haven’t logged in since Boost went down and don’t intend to. Except when a link takes me there and auto-opens the app.

That said, while it’s fun and informative to talk about how bad Reddit has become, I hope Lemmy can move on soon and just start being something different rather than constantly being smug about Reddit.

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7 points

I still have 12k+ comments made over 15 years I need to delete, then I’m gone

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I thought the same as you until I checked and saw that /r/programming is back. That is a professional resource whose merits outweigh the ideological ramifications

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14 points

I started spending more time at reddit slightly before the digg exodus, and yeah. The masses aren’t the ones to worry about, it’s the people that have been creating content and moderating it for the last 15 years. Reddit has no value past that, it’s just forum software (see also: digg.) Not sure how it’s going to shake out, but I know that I went viewing daily and commenting often to… nothing. The official app is not getting added to my phone, the mobile website is outright hostile, and it honestly just feels gross to launch the main website. I’d rather just search for gems on lemmy or kbin or mastodon and engage on that.

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11 points

The madlads! (I’m sorry I had to)

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8 points

The subs I have witnessed (although it is difficult because I did delete my account in protest of the API changes), are all full of Astroturf and Ads and are no longer usable.

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The big reveal on the impact from this will be in the aftermath from the future IPO. I believe the damage on the brand certainly had a big impact on the target price Reddit can ask.

Also, it showed how fragile its ecosystem is to a bunch of unpaid volunteers which may not have the shareholders interest at heart.

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It did a lot of things already. Their valuation was halved (maybe not that bad, but it’s wasn’t good) after it was already not that great.

It made the “important” people take a step back and question whether they should spend their advertising dollars on Reddit. At least a handful of the bigger advertising companies paused their ads on Reddit.

It put a bug in investors ears. The last thing you want, from a newly acquired asset, is shit tons of bad press and drama, along with a public devaluation.

Google publicly commenting on Reddit protests screwing up search results got into the minds of people that may have never even paid attention.

During the blackouts user time spent on Reddit decreased, and overall traffic decreased slightly. The first matters more. If less people are engaging with the site, for less time each use, that’s less ads they will see. I haven’t seen too many stats about usage a month later.

The user side is what will take time to see what happens. As content quality goes down, some people will be less interested. Then again, look at the rest of social media. Most people don’t really seem to care much about actual content, so maybe I’m wrong on that one.

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Valuation was halved before the protests started.

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This says after to protest. Unless I’m reading it wrong.

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27 points

Oh, that last bit about volunteers not being beholden to shareholders is not something that had occurred to me before. That definitely raises the risk of this asset.

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8 points

The Reddit IPO will be an amazing short opportunity.

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