cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1190537
How is reddit post protest, did it really win over protesters? Did the ones who left make a dent? Or like all things before, did it ultimately do nothing?
Of course they’re gonna claim they won. Most people don’t realise the sheer amount of bot generated content on there anyway, which has only increased.
Before the protest, going to /r/all would show you posts with ages between 30 minutes and 3 hours. Today, on /r/all, there isn’t a post less than 10 hours old in the first 40 entries. The content has changed from primarily trending news interspersed with memes to about 90% memes and shitposts padded with a few soft news summaries and opinion pieces.
In comparison, my Fediverse feed has exploded. The quality of content is at the level of pre-Digg reddit, and the commentary at a significantly higher level. There’s still not as much of an audience, particularly in niche communities, but it feels like that’s changing quickly. It’s clear to me that the creative drivers of reddit - the mods, the content creators, and the engaged commentators - have left, and that the traffic is being maintained by a mostly non-participating readership that uses Reddit as entertainment, not a community.
Reddit crushed the creative spirit of its most active populations. Whatever wins Spez is claiming, it’s come at the cost of what made the site worthwhile to begin with.
That’s an interesting take. If reddit can claim victory, it would be a hollow one, even if the remaining mods do cave.
Reddit has been careful to set the goalposts entirely in the realm they control, they ensured that in public communication “victory” means having the remaining subs open up. Ultimately, they do have final say over what is actually served on reddit.com. However, what they cannot control is their users, the contributors who built their empire for free. And they did a piss poor job of keeping us around.
They can force mods out, but they won’t be able to force them back in. As for users, I have no doubt they managed to push away the ones most resistant to monetization, but if that really was their strategy, whichever moron came up with that really needs to google the 1-9-90 principle.
A note about niche community audience: the community count number only shows the number of poeple on your instance subscribed, not the total number. The only exception is if the community is on that server.
There is a PR for lemmy to make this a little more clear, but its not implemented yet.
Completely agree. I think it’s just going to become a very mainstream basic place for basic discussion, probably with a lot of mean comments, racism, bigotry, etc. It wasn’t that way when I joined and it had already fallen pretty far when I left last month.
It’s not going to die as a site but the community is already gone.
That’s not important, we’ve already moved here
An incredibly insignificant amount of users migrated over, yes. Protest failed and got decimated. Reddit won. That’s all there is to it.
Migrations take time, it was never going to be a flick of a switch. Reddit content will slowly get worse and worse, and Lemmy content (or some other competitor) will get better and better as more people move. it’s those core users that generate great discussion that matter the most and those people are looking for somewhere else.
The users who left were often likely to be the most dedicated (which is why they were the most butt hurt). This is only the beginning and the exodus will continue and the content will decline, although I don’t know why I’m even telling you this since you’re probably a spezbot.
Reddit: we are going to make our site objectively worse for everyone
Everyone: fuck you reddit, we will stop using reddit in protest
Reddit: ok
Everyone: Oh… Wait… So like I actually have to stop using reddit?
Reddit: …
Everyone: Fine, we’ll come back but I am fake mad about it!
As long as we can keep up the content here, this has replaced Reddit for me.
The Connect for Reddit app is much more enjoyable to use than the official Reddit app. Heck, I even like it better than I did Sync for Reddit.
This place is feeling a lot like the Reddit from 2008. Just get some rage comics back and this place will be 🔥🔥🔥.
Lemmy takes a bit more curation to start finding communities and has some rough spots, but I’m super excited for this.
I personally think Jerboa is a the smoothest experience so far. But I’m planning to jump to Sync when it becomes available.
Thank you! All the effort people are making to make Lemmy like Reddit. With the bots reposting content here to “seed communities.” FFS, why did these people leave, then!? Same with, “but I want to see all the content on Threads!” Then join Threads. Lemmy is Lemmy. Please let it stay that way. People lose sight of the main point of the protest: the community of users. Those folks moved here and elsewhere. It’s those people, not bots or astroturfing communities, who are going to make Lemmy/Squabbles/Spyke/etc. great places.
Who actually gives a fuck?
A lot of people do.
What Reddit has done and is doing is very big news due to their size and the role they play on the internet. Just because you have a teenager’s snarky “who cares” attitude doesn’t mean that this isn’t important to a large portion of the online population, including many of the people who left reddit and came here.
And also even though lots of people like to say there’s no “competition” between Reddit and the Fediverse, that’s not actually true. Social networks need a critical mass of people participating in order for them to be good. The two systems might not be in financial competition but they are in competition for users.
I do. It’s about justice. Call me crazy, but I actively want to see companies that spite their users and customers lose. Reddit behaved like a mad dictator and didn’t value the only thing that made them valuable. And what‘s worse: they didn’t know it. They can F directly off until they turn back and apologize, at a minimum. Not so we can all go back to Reddit, because for me, that ship is sailed. But I’d prefer not having such deep disrespect for other humans, and I feel that action would be somewhat redeeming.
They’ve been selling NFT avatars and avatar parts for a bit now. They’re not like, $1800 single unit ape pics, but they are a limited run set of digital items purchased for real money. They actually gave most people one for free like 2 years ago or something.
