The reason I gave up on MP3’s and subscribed to Spotify was because Spotify was easy. I’ve been listening “Iron Maiden - Empire of the Clouds” song every day and like a week ago, its removed. This was the last straw for me. Right now I’m trying to find “Stremio” of the music world. Can someone assist?
Key features I’m looking for:
- Synchronization between devices
- Offline play
- Playlist support
- Both desktop and mobile apps
- Wide music library (optional if I will upload music)
- Lyrics (optional)
Update: thanks to everyone who shared their solutions 🙏
Yt-dl and use any media player, it’s the easiest way to get most of those option ticked.
I think a mixture of Jellyfin and Lidarr are what you’re looking for, but I haven’t tried out Lidarr personally. If it’s as good as Sonarr then it probably works well.
Jellyfin is a media server, so can be access from any device. Most use it for TV and films but its music player and library work well also.
-Arr services are used to crawl usenet/bittorrent trackers for different kinds of media.
I’d imagine the process for this would be you add an album you want to Lidarr, which will then look around for the audio files, use a downloader you point to in order to download it, and then move it into your Jellyfin library.
Edit: I’ve pointed at Docker repos because I’m a container whore but I believe they all have bare-metal builds also.
I was an early adopter of Jellyfin and love it - but personally prefer Navidrome for my music server. Granted, I haven’t looked at the music capabilities of Jellyfin in a long while, because I’ve been running Navidrome.
Symphonium android client is my recommendation for that (and I believe it also works for Jellyfin) but there are others.
My pipeline is essentially as you describe though Lidarr –> nzbget –> Navidrome
Same, Navidrome, Lidarr, Symfonium and Nginx reverse proxy. Plus last.fm scrobbling.
But getting new music takes a while, I should probably try the OPS interview.
I just set up navidrome after reading this, and I really like it, but it’s an absolute pain to install on windows
Ah sorry! I have only run it from within Docker on Linux. BUT, I’m glad you got it working!
I checked out Lidarr and it only supports usenet and bittorrent. Unfortunately it won’t work for “local” music I think.
Lidarr doesn’t need your whole library, just what you need to download. You can add your local music to Jellyfin alongside anything you get from -Arr services.
I know when I’ve used Sonarr it’s also managed to parse my local library when I’ve added a series I’ve already downloaded to look for future episodes.
What do you mean “local”? Lidarr is not a player. It looks at your already existing music files and pulls any missing albums from the list of artist you already have.
Wrong word. I meant I’m from a 3rd world country and the music from my country can’t be found on public indexers. Not a native speaker 🤷♂️
Yet, that’s the exact opposite of Stremio for the music world. The point of Stremio is that you do not queue stuff, download it, save it all to your hard drive and all.
Music Stremio would be cool, but I think hosting it yourself is the closest you can get with music while still retaining a decent user experience :/
I guess they could also throw a load of adblockers onto YouTube? Ublock Origin, ReVanced YT Music etc. But that isn’t really ‘piracy’ at that point if OP is purposely wanting to avoid the actual big names.
I mean, the label doesn’t matter in the end, does it? Like, it doesn’t need.to be called Piracy to be worthwhile. If you use the big one’s servers without any limitations but aren’t paying them for it,.isn’t that “avoiding the big one’s” in a way?
I don’t know if there exists a solution with all your requirements. You could host your own music library via Plex or something, and aquire stuff via lidarr but this doesn’t have the instant availability of Spotify.
I’d probably use ViMusic (android) if we didn’t have a family apple music sub going. It basically uses the YouTube music backend. Super easy to set up and use, has on-device playlist and download support. I don’t think it does synchronisation though.
What’s the bitrate gonna be on ViMusic though – is it whatever is on actual YouTube video uploads? I imagine that would be very lossy. I could be wrong. If it was ~320kbps I’d be all over it. That’s what I’m looking for really. Short of my current solution, which is Soulseek > cloud service storage > CloudBeats (Android app) for stuff I want decent quality of, and Spotify adfree using XManager for discovery and lower quality listening.
I much prefer to download music as flac and keep them local but i have 2 issues.
Finding new musis is hard because i am rarely exposed to it.
Music i like tends to be more obscure and harder to find a flac download for.
Ive started to use Spotify this year for those reasons but i hate it. I would love an alternative.
Spotify is pretty much the only quality tool to learn about new music which fits your taste. Google services tend to disappear after a while, like Google Music did, and the only other option is Apple Music I guess, but I’ve never used it, so not sure.
I remember the days before Spotify still: downloading gigs of music, only 1% is ok, loads of time wasted. Fuck it, I’ll pay for Spotify and then download what I like for permanent collection. My time is a lot more worth than a subscription fee.
I’ve had better luck with Tidal’s recommendations. Spotify just kept playing me covers and live music on my weekly and it was driving me crazy.
Warez websites
Blogs
Bandcamp daily
Youtube and twitch feedback channels
Sorry but it’s easy to discover new music without algorithms
I am glad those work for you but music is very subjective and personal and these wont work for me. and my autistic peculiar tastes
I literally just managed to build a system so i never need to see the youtube website again. Its what made me wonder if i could do the same for Spotify
Take a look at Musicroamer
you type in a favorite artist and it uses the spotify recommendation stuff to find similar artists
if you find one that sounds nice then you can then create a branch of artist that are similar to them
(probably a horrible explanation, just mess about with it for a minute and you’ll get an idea how it works)
I’ve personally used it to find quite a few new favorites since ditching Spotify in favor of a self hosted Navidrome server
as for FLAC downloads check out Qobuz, which has unlimited DL plans
alternatively if you would rather sail the seas, search up Firehawk52 for a guide
There’s a bunch of apps on Flathub for that, but if you’re looking for a Windows app, then iidk.
