No one should be using their Chinese spyware OS anyway.

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Whatever happened to Android being FOSS?

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please tell me how Android is not FOSS anymore.

because I really don’t understand this argument here.

Android is still FOSS. you can grab the source code, modify it and use it, if you really want.

even so, since Xiaomi provides you tools and codes to unlock the phone and install any other compatible system on it.

oh, no more updates then for MIUI? the heavily modified version of Android that Xiaomi is making and providing services for it? and then, the whole FOSSness is breaking for you if they say no more updates for their version if you open the loader? who would have thought.

why would you do that, in the first place? I guess to install other roms. so you probably don’t like MIUI anyway.

or you want to modify MIUI? you know that 90% of hacks just don’t fucking work with MIUI’s framework, right? that it’s breaking and shit. and then, if that happens, who would you call? well, not the ghostbusters but go to MIUI support snd blame them for your shitty modifications.

tell me, please, how Android is not FOSS anymore, I really wanna know what keeps you up at nights.

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The FOSS part of Android has been shrinking as Google let the FOSS apps die in favor of their proprietary apps.

And the worse they did is Play Services, meaning a lot of apps won’t run on a pure FOSS Android.

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true, but you aren’t obligated to use any of that. the FOSSness of the OS itself doesn’t change.

lots of apps aren’t even FOSS on Android. FOSS ones usually have versions that aren’t dependent on Google Services, or you can patch them not to use them, with various results, that’s true.

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In short: Android is open source, but the actual software you get with the phone is not.

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You’re confusing Android and AOSP.

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It’s possible that rooting your phone impedes the ability for the Chinese spyware to work properly.

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The only spyware you should be concerned about is that from your own country. That’s the country that can actually do things against you with the information. What are you worried about “China” doing with your chats or metadata on which apps are open?

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Word. All this China is a big brother fails account for the fact that most states today are big brothers. It’s only a matter of degree.

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It’s worse than that. All this China big brother talk is just a variant of xenophobia. It’s a talking point they’ve been trained to slam their foreign “enemies” about without ever thinking about it at all of what the actual harm they’re concerned about would look like.

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Thats cool, I don’t use chinese spyware phones anyways

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Tbh I wonder if flashing an aosp rom changes that at all

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Why wonder? Go read the code.

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What? My point is that I wonder if there are hardware and bootloader level back doors that survive flashing a new ROM or if you can be truly clean flashing a trusted AOSP one.

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Well, that’s fine I don’t use MIUI at all 🤷‍♂️

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