Why YSK: It appears several Lemmy Instances are flagged as suspicious and at least 1 instance intentionally using the name of ransomware. A couple of the big enterprise monitoring suites (Fortiguard, ZScaler) will flag your account and may end up with you being pulled into an office for an explanation, or worse.

TL;DR: Keep browsing to your local instance at work for now.

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Don’t use company computers for personal stuff, it all gets logged and can be used against you at the very least as evidence that you weren’t working come performance reviews.

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It’s fucking insane people don’t know this in 2023.

Work computers are for work, and pretty much every employer monitors what you do on it.

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I occasionally click on the little wether icon and see what the forecast looks like. Hope I don’t get fired!

At my old job we had to research customers which frequently involved looking on Facebook and other sites. I was very intentionally not logged in, which probably wouldn’t work now, and kept any and all searches to items that I could prove were related to a work item. It’s insane that people don’t follow that advice.

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Things like weather will be fine unless you have an unreasonable boss/job.

But people should only use work computers the way they would if they knew the entire company was watching a live stream of their desktop.

Even for working from home, I put my work laptop on the isolated guest wifi because I don’t trust them the same way they don’t trust me.

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Work computers are for work, and pretty much every employer monitors what you do on it.

Depends heavily on where you work. My employer don’t track what we use the computers for (of course there’s a ‘TOS’ of sorts which says that it’s company property and should only be used for company stuff) but as long as you are at least somewhat reasonable on what you use the system for it’s fair play. Things like checking your personal email and occasional visit to lemmy/whatever your social media poison is doesn’t raise any flags as long as you get the job done and that’s it. Of course you can’t install anything on the system but as long as a browser session on incognito mode is enough and it doesn’t harm your duties, while technically forbidden, no one really cares.

And yes, I know this for sure, as I’m one of the guys who enforces the policies for our gear. YMMV.

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Good advice always has its exceptions. But in general you should never use a work device for personal use because it’s very easy for that information to be either compromised and/or used against you.

My personal guidance is “if you don’t own the device, pretend the owner is looking over your shoulder” it’s incredibly easy for them to install keyloggers and trackers remotely and silently.

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Then your job probably isn’t that serious then like others where they get monitored.

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And the same goes for company wifi if you have to log in with your own username.

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Even if you don’t, there’s plenty of different ways to identify a user on company wifi.

For example, have your cellphone named “Stephano’s iPhone”? Narrows it down to the Stephanos working in range of that access point.

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I usually used a VPN if I was on the WiFi. Made me feel better even if I’m just browsing memes

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Connecting to an “unauthorized” VPN is against IT policy for some companies, especially if your job involves handling sensitive data.

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Always use a VPN when on a network you can’t trust. There are plenty of free and trustworthy ones you can activate with one click, and then all the company sees is noise.

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I trust my company’s wifi network a lot more than a free VPN app.

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If the company owns the endpoint there’s lots they can do to monitor your traffic even with a VPN. For phones if you sign in to work mail with your phone and allow them to manage your device just assume they have control of it now.

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Depends on your work. I agree with you, but for example my work is different.

Yes, we have managed devices as well, but my department specifically went for unmanaged devices. Just plain old laptops. Install whatever OS you want, do whatever you want. I only have the base windows install on there for some compatibility reasons, I mostly just use PopOS.

And we’re also explicitly allowed to browse private content - as long as the work gets done and we stay in budget, do whatever.

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If you are on their network they can see what you are doing. At the end of the day, the business will protect itself.

Do what you want at your own risk. But never assume that any company is on your side.

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This is so simple, whatever policy they have if something goes wrong they will try their best to find a scape goat.

Why do you people have phones with gigabytes of daya for?

Additionally, do your best not to be part of the company where you might get into trouble for just using internet.

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Of course they can. That’s why I usually use my phone as a hot spot when I’m browsing private stuff ;)

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Do the other departments use managed devices? IT might get pretty mad if your department went over them and bought computers themselves, lol.

It’s not optimal from a security and legal point of view.

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IT specifically has an option for unmanaged devices, exactly for developers like me :)

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agreed with the point. However, lemmy might soon be the new reddit for information, asking questions, troubleshooting.

So I guess a solution for accessing lemmy for such resources on company computer without being flagged would be good, especially this gets a bit more complicated with the decentralized nature of the fediverse (multiple domains of lemmy)

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Browsing personal sites, especially social media, on a work computer is insane

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Insane? I wouldn’t go so far, everybody has downtimes from time to time, unless you are doing something crazy… It is fine.

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So why not using your personal phone instead?

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Really depends on the place of work. I work in the IT of out company and my PC isn’t monitored. My door is constantly open though and there are a lot of people passing. Me looking at the screen is normal and part of my work. Me looking at my phone is always seen as me not working.

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Nah

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Cool, good sources… Thank you!

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Just don’t use a work computer for anything but work. Use your personal cell phone and don’t use their wifi.

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It constantly surprises me how many people use their work computers as as if it was a personal computer. They’ve got family pictures, shopping, browsing, socials, everything. I’ve tried mentioning before, in a roundabout way, but people really don’t care. And then when they get laid off or quit then they’re shocked as hell once the computer’s remotely locked and wiped and then they make a big stink about how all of their stuff was on there. It’s like what did you expect to happen.

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My work phone is specifically partitioned to separate personal and work activities. I can’t even copy and paste text between the two sides, they are so disconnected from each other. This is done specifically so people can use their work phone for personal business without cross-contamination.

I still refuse to use my work phone for anything but work. I only log into my personal accounts long enough to install/update a few apps from the Play Store that aren’t allowed on the work side but are still useful (MS Teams, WhatsApp).

Part of that is not wanting to enter a 12 character password every time I want to do anything simple . But the other part is that I just don’t want to mix my personal and work lives more than I have to.

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The reason I used to use my work PC for online purchases/personal finances because the network at my employer was much more secure than my home network. But it was a smaller company back then, now that we’re “corporate” (partnered a larger entity) I don’t.

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Porn, so much porn

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I’ve literally never once seen porn on Lemmy despite everyone constantly talking about it.

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Or use VPN

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Most corporate networks block vpn traffic.

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I used to use a VPN on the work wifi and then they began blocking VPN’s. One day my VPN started continuously dropping and reconnecting while on their wifi. Absolutely within their right to do, they need to know what traffic is on their network in case of anything that breaks policy or is nefarious.

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Just don’t

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Or just use a VPN on the Wi-Fi

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Stay off company resources when using technology for personal use.

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Underrated comment right here…

Yall got phones jfc

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Why would people not just use their phones? I would never browse any social media on a work computer.

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I had a lady in the marketing department open a ticket with us many years ago when ILoveYou was running rampant and we had blocked yahoo mail, gmail, etc on our corporate network and she was PISSED because “I need to access that for my other job!”. Yes, she put that in the ticket. That was a brief discussion with her manager and a resume generating event for her.

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Ironically I would have been happy to help her figure out a solution had she not been a complete and utter bitch about it. Instead she got her ass fired for misusing company resources. I suspect her boss was looking for an excuse, 'cause this woman was a 100% Karen stereotype.

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“Resume generating event” - that took me a moment, but then I laughed

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That only helps if you aren’t on company wifi. Guess it’s time to stop misusing the corporate wifi password I shouldn’t have.

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A VPN would be fine, no?

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Most corps block vpn traffic, I know there are ways to “tunnel” traffic to get around this but I’m not very familiar with them

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