77 points

Everything has ads now, I don’t have a fire TV but surprised Amazon is this late to this bs game. The Xbox has ads now like with mw3 when you launch the console. My Visio Tv I spent ~1000 on a few years ago is stuffed with ads when you turn it on.

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52 points

pihole

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Is this…an ad?

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A solution. Is it an Ad when it is for something you do yourself that solves problems about which you’ve publicly complained? Think there is another word for that. hmm. It sure suggests something that is specifically designed as being a definition for that. Sure suggests something, but I guess we’ll never know. I’d appreciate anyone recommendation upon a good word to use when someone offers a solution to something about which you complained. Any suggested recommendation would be welcome.

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31 points

This is why my ‘smart’ TV will never, ever be connected to the internet. It’s an LG so I would expect it to not be onerous, but it’s often nagging me to connect to my router for stuff like AI tools.

No thanks. You’re smart enough already for my use, TV! HDMI only please.

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16 points

I’m a firm believer that smart should be self contained. If a device needs the internet, it’s not that smart since it has to rely on outside sources to work properly.

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3 points

Although I agree with the sentiment. It’s like saying people that research are not smart.

They should all just be thinkers like Einstein, let some other dummy find the proof.

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3 points

You can disable the AI in the settings.

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19 points

They’re not late. I’ve been using Fire Sticks for years and Amazon has been working hard the whole time to shove more and more ads all over the UI. The main row of apps gets smaller with every update and more and more ads are plastered around and between them to try to sell you more shit you don’t want or already have.

I managed to jailbreak mine before they locked them down and install a custom launcher so they’re actually usable, but the stock UI is god-awful. I’ll be replacing them once the next round of Apple TVs come out.

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I’ll be replacing them once the next round of Apple TVs come out.

The Nvidia Shield Pro is quite capable. Sideload a different launcher and install Aerial Views and you’re good to go!

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How did they lock them down?

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2 points

Pushed a software update that disabled third party launchers and disallowed disabling future software updates.

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9 points

It’s not new, Amazon just changed their policy allowing ads for non-media. The Fire devices have always been primarily vehicles for ads; they take up the entire lockscreen on the Kindle reader and Fire tablets. On Fire TV, the top 40-ish% of the screen is a giant ad, then you get a tiny carousel of recommendations, then another thinner banner ad, then “your” content like queue and watchlist.

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7 points

My Apple TV has no ads.

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6 points

One of my home monitoring cameras suddenly started placing ad watermarks on my video feed - I shit you not. I feel like obstitricians are going to start slapping ad stickers on newborns bellies as they pull them out soon enough. I hate it. I’m not completely sure what the answer is, but I’ve always been a proponent of the micropayment idea as a way to navigate digital life with more focus and less dependence on ads but it’s not caught on at all because HEY FREE!!

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4 points

Thank gosh my PS5 doesn’t yet have ads when I launch a game

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1 point

My tcl doesn’t have ads. Probably because it already knows I’ll ignore them and it’s selling that data

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TLC was discussed above https://lemmy.world/comment/5181873

Your comment sounds like you might already be aware, but maybe you were just assuming it’s doing the same spying most smart TVs are probably doing.

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Mine is Roku based so the article doesn’t apply, but yes I’m still assuming they are pulling and selling data to subsidize up front cost and fluff profits

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67 points

buying a ‘dumb’ tv is getting harder and harder to do…

how long until you are forced to hook a new ‘smart’ one up to the internet, just to “set it up”–even if you have no plans on ever using the ‘smart’ features or embedded apps?

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13 points

Looking forward to the 1 yr free trial of my new TV, before I have to subsribe to Samsung+ for just 15.99 per month to turn it on.

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14 points

I cannot stand how believable this scenario is.

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4 points

Unlock additional HDMI ports for only $5.99 a month!

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Roku tvs already do that, you even need to put in a credit card number for it to work.

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You can choose not to connect a Roku TV to the Internet during the initial setup, and you just get access to live TV and the HDMI inputs with (obviously) no streaming channels or updates. It works fine as a dumb TV.

And the credit card thing? That’s after you create your account on their website, you can just close the browser window. Or click the button saying “skip” or “later” or whatever it is.

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4 points

Was helping family with setting it up, I guess I didn’t see that

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1 point

does this link to make an account without a payment method not work anymore?
https://my.roku.com/signup/nocc

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11 points

If you buy a Sony Bravia you can put them into “pro mode” which keeps all the signal processing, but lets you turn off android.

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1 point

That’s good to know!

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10 points

Agreed. You can buy the displays that are marketed to businesses and usually come without all of the invasive smart features.

They definitely cost more on average, but they’re also built to run more often or constantly, and hold up far better. They’re even a lot more customizable.

You can buy some that come with slots where you put in a raspberry pi or another computer of your choice, instead of whatever OS that comes with smart tvs.

At this point, I’m starting to regularly check if there are “for business customers” options available when I need something, because the options for regular consumers are getting so bad with all this data hoarding and ad pushing.

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6 points

Just don’t connect it to the internet.

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That’s the point they are making. Currently that’s possible. But what is stopping the producers to force you to hook it up to the internet?

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3 points

O… damn.

Not buying the tv might work… at mass. Like everyone. Please people, vote with your wallet/privacy.

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They already do, vizio sets and roku TV sets require an internet connection as soon as you power it on to set it up

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I can’t figure out why the cheap TCL I bought 5 years ago isn’t packed with ads. Maybe because it’s Roku-based?

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23 points

Probably because it’s Chinese spyware. https://www.tomsguide.com/news/tcl-smart-tv-security-flaws

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6 points

Disturbing; thanks for sharing that. Seems like the Roku flavor may be okay-ish, but I just walled it off from rest of home network anyway.

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Get a projector and a screen. They’re all dumb.

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5 points

Not always an option. You’d need to dim the lights every time and - most importantly - have a whole spare wall in your home.

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Im sure you could mount a rollup projector screen anywhere you would put your TV, but your first point is huge. The light issue is a huge non starter

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I’ve tried getting a way too cheap, really bad projector running Android to work once. From Wish or something, I guess. It was a truly unpleasant experience. Fortunately, it wasn’t mine!

Also, I had a good ol’ dumb Epson projector 10-15 years ago, but it had a very noisy fan, meaning you had to always turn up your HiFi to try and camouflage the fan noise in louder sound than you else would’ve had. Are low-end consumer projectors still that noisy?

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I have a Ben-Q and sit under it without noticing fan noise at all. It’s 1080p and the lights don’t need to be dimmed. The projector screen is mounted to the ceiling so I just roll it up when I’m done.

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Been awhile but boy I really feel like my LG setup was pretty darn close to this sort of experience.

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63 points

What a totally expected turn of events!

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53 points

Stuffing ads on streaming services? How could Amazon do such a thing?

Anyway, for your consideration, Barbie (at last!), now available on streaming services everywhere.

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I have you tagged as ‘probably actually her’ just because I want it to be true.

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And as I’ve said here before: I just play her on TV.

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Which is a fantastic answer, but this is Lemmy, not TV, and Margot Robbie’s name is Margot Robbie.

I’m not trying to call you out, nor draw you out though. I’m not into parasocial relationships, but I do love the idea of Lemmy’s first celebrity user being the actor that literally played Barbie. It’s just a delightful thought.

But being the first novelty account: also fine.

These are all important milestones for Lemmy.

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14 points

I completely forgot about tags. My first Lemmy tag is now ‘probably actually her.’

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Hopefully not on me, because I can assure you that I am a 4 year old Polish Lowland Sheepdog, and not acclaimed actor Margot Robbie. Please tag responsibly.

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I didn’t. I tried to use Sync but they paywalled tags. Thank Boost for existing.

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And you are surprised?

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