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Man we really fucked this place up

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By “we” do you mean “Europeans and their colonial spawn” and by “this place” do you mean “earth”?

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Europeans werent the only colonisers. Just saying

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They hate the truth! It hurts their eyes.

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60 points

Slave. The word is slave. “Forced labor” sounds like it’s downplaying the severity.

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I don’t mean to downplay the severity, but there are procedural differences. Slavery was pro forma banned at the time. Effectively, I agree, for all practical purposes of the folk in chains, it was slavery.

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Didn’t know Australians still had slavery so late in history.

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47 points

Formally, it wasn’t slavery. Effectively, it was.

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49 points

I’m seeing chains on necks, looks like slavery to me. Even if they were prisoners, that is inhumane.

Fucking greasy to think it’s so close to recent history.

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The current US prison system is effectively legalised slavery, and is a big reason why US system doesn’t do reform and incentives recedivism

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Mate, its more recent than you think.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Modern_chain_gang.jpg

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doesn’t count if you don’t think those wearing chains are people.

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It was still happening in the 1970’s.

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They didn’t even class indigenous Australians as people, until late 1960’s. They were considered fauna.

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Is it ? Australia hold a référendum this year to give a bit more rights to native people. They voted against it.

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America still had slavery in the 1940s when the last slave was freed (might’ve been later than that) and it still has slavery in the form of prison labor

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And we still have slavery. It is legal per the 13th amendment. Disgusting.

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Can you tell me more about that?

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Here’s where I got this information, it’s a long watch but well worth it. video

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China still has slavery today.

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Also India, many places in Europe, the Arab states, South and North America. Or do you mean China is specially “slavey”?

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I mean sure maybe idk anything about china. What made you bring it up?

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10 points

hahahahaha you think this is late???

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Aboriginals we’re even denied a seat in politics just in the last few months. I remember being shocked they voted in Tony abbot …who for years screamed about women’s menstruation in parliament. Australia is super backwards.

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Abbott was also appointed Minister for Women.

The Voice which, if I understand correctly, wasn’t an offer of a seat in parliament, it was a constitutional amendment that would allow an advisory board for Aboriginal and Torres strait islanders. They wouldn’t have had any actual power any way.

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It was a British penal colony up until 1840

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44 points

Such an evil smile.

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And he might have ended up being a standup dude in another time.

That’s something that I think about often.

The average intelligence of the population of the world isn’t that great. Most people accept whatever reality is instilled in them. If you take a little baby and raise it up to think of some people as animals, they’ll probably never question it, and being surrounded only by people who accept that reality, they’ll never have a reason to question it. I very rarely meet a person who has ever really questioned their reality. It always surprised me when I do.

Most abolitionists came from a world where they were they weren’t exposed to slavery, so they were able to question it. Even then, only around 2% of the population were abolitionists, they just fought really hard for their cause until it rose up high enough to actually be considered for action.

I’m not even putting myself into that small group of people smart enough to question their reality. If I hadn’t grown up with the internet there’s a good chance I’d be a preacher in a Pentecostal holiness church somewhere. That small handful of people who question their reality help spread their questions to the idiot masses.

That’s why I admire people who fight for positive change above all other people. They fight an uphill battle daily. Sometimes they win big and I’m grateful they do.

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I have to agree here from experience.

One of my kids came out as gay. I grew up in a very homophobic environment in the 70s. I would quite often called timid people puffs etc. Sometimes around my kids, because that was how I grew up. You discouraged timid behaviour to stop them getting bullied. Realising one of your kids is gay was a real eye opener for me as to how bad these phrases are.

I would never treat a gay person differently. I just saw it as an expression that was common when I was young, and also in the environment I worked in. For context, I used to play squash with a guy from work, who everyone was convinced was gay. He actually got married in a heterosexual relationship a few years later, but whether he was or wasn’t never bothered me. This ofc doesn’t excuse the practise, it just shows how warped I was.

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General Sherman early in life was quite alright with slavery and a casual racist against Black people, and later became an ardent anti-racist (at least, anti-racist with regards to anti-Black racism). He noted, some years after the US CIvil War, when asked by younger folk how so many people could have blithely accepted slavery, that man is more a creature of habit than originality.

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It’s crazy to me that people can look at this picture and then immediately start arguing about semantics.

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Every one of those people said it’s effectively slavery.

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