I was looking forward to trying Sync today now that it’s live, but my enthusiasm was immediately dampened after seeing the “Data Safety” section on the Google Play store.
Liftoff has been great, and want to say thanks for making an awesome app. This will continue to be my daily driver.
Edit: for clarity, because the post got way bigger than I expected.
Sync looks like a fantastic app, and the dev/s should charge whatever they feel is fair for their efforts, even if that’s through the usual ads + ad tracking.
My intent was just to post here in /c/Liftoff to thank the Liftoff devs for managing to somehow offer an awesome app without any of that.
Here we are, with rabid FOSS fanboys complaining about tracking in an Android app. Probably posting these angry threads from their Samsungs, loaded down with baked in spyware and adware, and acting superior cause they fiddled around on DuckDuckGo long enough to figure out how to install F-Droid and think now they’re elite hackers in total control of their device and data.
If you’re running a stock ROM, you’ve already given all your data away to the manufacturer and Google, at the very least. So don’t come on Lemmy bitching about tracking, when half of you wouldn’t know what privacy was if I beat you to death with it.
You exquisite knobs. You absolute baffoons.
People that diss open source are dumbass dipshits. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Open source software runs most of the Internet and this social media platform. It has provide more value to every one of us than any closed source retail software ever could.
And yes I do care about privacy. I only run de-googled AOSP phones and my home network has pi-hole and a VPN. So I will go on and on about how FOSS is better, thank you very much.
Exactly where did I diss open source? Did you read my comment, or just jump to the reply button?
I copied and pasted my own comment from another thread, because I thought it was still good haha. Maybe it doesn’t apply perfectly but I think the sentiment is relevant.
Yeah and we all know that if you’re not using a dumb phone and an Unix machine disconnected from the internet you’re an exquisite knob and shouldn’t worry about privacy at all and anyone should have the right to access your data.
What a bullshit take.
You’re like a dog, loaded down with ticks, complaining about the single flea on him. That’s what you sound like, you know?
I didn’t complain about sync’s privacy policy or closed source anywhere. I just think your comment is weird and it’s a strange hill you’re dying on.
Posted from my LineageOS phone, no gapps, microG, only foss apps.
I hope you felt good and happy writing your comment, unlike the rabid, angry, superior acting, elite hacker, bitches, knobs, baffoons FOSS fanboys.
What’s with the insults just because people aren’t using Sync? I don’t understand the fanaticism of worship that seems to be around it that people react in this manner to those who decide to not use it.
Sync has an extremely fanatical fan base that orbits around its dev on their discord. It’s like a whole community, they think of the head dev as their friend, and they get extremely defensive of Sync.
Because one time a a few years ago a bunch of users complained about a really bad UI change, and the dev was so hurt he stopped developing for a bit. So they took it upon themselves to be his personal goon squad, dispatch from the discord if someone shares a negative post about sync there.
Well, Sync brought more of the yucky Reddit people which were a minority in the first migration.
Hard disagree. I find Sync the best user experience so far, including the best looking UI hands down
I’ve been using Voyager until today. It was a fine app, but anyone who thinks it holds a candle to Sync is off their rocker. Sync has more features, runs far more smoothly, and looks a hell of a lot better.
Exactly. I don’t think many of the people who are claiming Sync is no better than others have actually used and thoroughly explored Sync, even for Reddit.
The customization options are incredible. Beautiful UI. Backup options. Filters. Settings that are fine tuned, and separate per account. It feels like years of work and polish, compared to weeks or months for others. Others work fine (fan of Liftoff), getting better, but I’m blown away with Dawson and Sync. The “ad outrage” is disappointing and silly to me at this stage (literally day one).
And for me, font is just too smal and hard to setup in Sync. And slow.
Jerboa wins again.
Tell me you haven’t gone through Sync’s settings without telling me you haven’t gone through Sync’s settings
Lol, claiming that Jerboa is just as good if not better than sync is wild!
Isn’t that down to what one individually consider “good”?
I find notepad-style text editors better word processors than Microsoft’s online Office system. It’s not because notepads are technically better or more visually appealing. It’s because I value not being tracked more.
I used Sync for a long time on Reddit, but there didn’t seem to be any free clients (with no ads) there.
I like “no ads” a lot more than I like “a very slightly better UI”, and the free ones for Lemmy offer enough for what I need. I don’t know what a paid one could offer over that to convince me to buy it.
ROFLCOPTER
claiming these are just as good as sync just tells what you expect the apps to do
but what I’ve seen and (a lot of the other posters) is that sync is a whole lot smoother than all these apps and is the most feature-rich client
if getting tracked is your main problem in using sync, just use nextdns or pihole to block connections to google servers or pay up (currently only using google, I wish there was some other way)
I’ve read sync for reddit stopped connections to google after paying up
thing is, with all you list (and sync) the key thing is there is CHOICE
Nobody is forcing anyone to use Sync. If you don’t like the model it uses, then use something else that better fits what you want. People in this thread are acting like its compulsory to use sync.
BUT. what sync will do is bring people over from reddit. Sync for Reddit was hugely popular and there are tens of thousands of people that used Sync for years that had not shown any interest in Lemmy. Sync will bring some of those to this community which can only be a benefit to everyone.
Don’t like it, don’t use it.
For one, it handles account switching much more smoothly than most apps I’ve tried.
While viewing a post, commenting, searching, or posting, you can choose your originating instance from a drop-down. Most other apps have to reload your feed and/or relaunch.
It’s been really helpful for me whenever an instance is bogged down or acting funny, and I can just hop over without losing my place.
Liftoff is great, it’s true. Sadly, it lacks the only feature I’m after : hide read posts on scroll. Saw requests for this not being answered, so I guess it’s not coming.
Great app I admit, but a hard pass for me because of this.
A better question is, what does Liftoff lack that others don’t?
I miss being able to hide posts, for example.
In Sync settings under View Type, you can enable the option to hide a post from the main feed view. In fact, there’s a lot of additional features that can be enabled and customized, the options menu is enormous and it really can be customized to your personal preferences.
Infinity is coming? Is it similar to the reddit version? And where can I see updates for it?
It’s already out, but it still has lots of references to reddit. There’s even still a ui for giving out awards
Yep! Here’s the website where you can find it right now: https://codeberg.org/Bazsalanszky/Infinity-For-Lemmy
You can download it from the Releases section manually or install and keep it updated with Obtainium
I tried adding it to Obtanium, but it says “could not find suitable release”
Summit (#1 in my heart), also lemmotif is in early development but has promise.
“Oh, no! It’s collects data!” - say people who use search engines, smartphones, navigations, personal AI assistants and social networks created by big tech companies to trade in user data.
No, that’s legit! Also, not something 99.9% of people who complaint about privacy do.
People have a complete right to complain about privacy and make their own choices with what they find acceptable. All of those examples you listed are where people are making a concious choice. Apps sneaking in data collection is not acceptable, people are most likely to already trust the app when the rug is pulled from under them.
People pay. Sync is the greedy one. Fuck ads therefore fuck Sync.
What you think Sync pays to the Lemmy devs and the instances it connects to?
All code should be free! No one should ever make a living writing code. It makes no damn sense. Writing code is the easiest thing on the planet. Asking money for it is pure greed.
I guess I should have added “/s”. I really didn’t think it was needed. 😅
Not what I said. You can write code, open or closed source, and make a living. Putting ads on an open source foundation is for cockroaches.
I will say in Sync’s defense that they have given free access to many Lemmy moderators and the instance admins of Lemmy.world so they are contributing in some way
Nice, the Lemmy mods and Lemmy.world admins can buy a big fucking sandwich with that access.
Why do Sync dev need to pay Lemmy and the instance?
The price is for the client, not for the Lemmy platform or instance hosting (which is free, being the point).
Why put ads (on something with no ads) and have users pay to remove ads. And then complain people won’t pay other people who put in the hard work.
That’s some first class disrespect. To both users as well as platform developers.
You enjoy that first class crap.
Edit: It’s official, the $ync army consists of insufferable, ball sucking douchebags.
Edit 2: Stync brought all those spez loving people over, or they paid for a marketing campaign. $100 app for some mediocre frontend shit. Insanity.
Willing to pay and not wanting to support certain monetization models are two different things.
That’s like someone calling someone who buys games but refuses to spend money on microtransactions cheap.
What monitization models? Sync offers multiple options, including subscription or a one time payment, and a one time payment for the ad free option specifically. What other monitization model would you prefer exactly?
When I first took a look it was only ads with a subscription model to remove it. Later got a $20 removal, but I don’t like that it uses stuff like admob for personalized ads over just generic ads.
As for what type of monetization I prefer would be only a paid app without any ad integration at all that needs to be disabled. Or Apollo method of one single app without ads that pushes users towards the paid tier by having the free experience be very limited with one account sign in restrictions, no submissions, filter limits, etc.
Anyways, I uninstalled and moved on to other apps. It wasn’t something that I found vital to use.
Ugh. Lemmy turning into Reddit with dumbasses.
