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As a Canadian, I’m incredibly disappointed in my government for supporting this genocide and settling of stolen land. We’re on the wrong side of history with this.

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this genocide and settling of stolen land.

Guess they’re concerned they’d have to look inward a little?

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Thing is, Canada has been looking inward. That’s what makes it worse.

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What has the Canadian state done to materially improve the conditions of the indigenous population? It’s all lip service and no action. The major difference here is that the project of ethnic and cultural genocide was largely successful, wiping out the chance of any serious resistance movement.

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They can shut the fuck up about “truth and reconciliation” while simultaneously supporting a modern day indigenous genocide on top of continuing on their own indigenous genocide in secret. I knew they were full of shit after they made the Queen’s day of death a holiday.

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It’s so absolutely insane how Canada is happy to tout reconciliation with First Nations people and simultaneously support the genocide of an indigenous people.

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That’s just a resistance-numbing effort. In the courts and on the streets they very much continue their genocide at full speed, and judging by how shocked as shit people were at discovering the mass graves and how quickly everyone forgot about it after the initial shock, it’s working.

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First Nations

I think they’re third-nations with all the discoveries of civilisations long buried.

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Disappointed, sure, but I don’t think you should be surprised.

Canada was founded as a country specifically for the purpose of genocide. Virtually the entire country is on settled and stolen land. It would be hypocritical to be against someone else doing the same.

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You could say the same about Australia and various Latin America countries, yet they still condemn Israel action.

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You’re right, but there’s a reason why Canadians don’t talk about their “founding fathers” the way Americans do.

I don’t know how many other countries are the same way.

The first PM was explicitly racist against indigenous people, and IIRC, the country was explicitly founded on the basis of white supremacy over indigenous peoples.

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Canada was founded more than 150 years ago. I’m surprised that in that intervening period, nothing has changed.

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Generally speaking if Germany votes in favour of this kind of resolution and you against, you done fucked up.

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Yeah, why the fuck are we red?!?

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Because Canada itself is an apartheid regime, and doesn’t want to set a “wrong” precedent.

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What’s our problem, Canada?

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Don’t want to piss off the downstairs neighbours.

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The yapping dog of American Empire.

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Even more than it used to be. Canadian foreign policy regarding Iraq, Vietnam, and Cuba took a very different position to the US and was on the whole quite good (for a western country). But that was all decades ago. Practically speaking, Canada no longer has its own independent foreign policy.

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I mean, we’re still friends with Cuba, and never did get involved in Iraq which wasn’t so long ago.

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Even Europe and Oceania is onboard with this one, though. Don’t they usually abstain at least?

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Conservatives push up more to the US than UK

It’s why we can’t get support behind CANZUK

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We’re just America’s hat, what do you expect

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Imagine being in such blatant violation of international law and human decency that China, Japan, and both Good and Capitalist Running Dog Korea can agree that you suck.

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chronic food shortage stricken, ostracized

i wonder why a country under economic sanction from the US & its allies for decades might have economic trouble. i wonder why they’re rude to the US after the US bombed and murdered their people for 3 years & still occupy the southern half of their country

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I mean the US did have talks and if you’re not willing to concede anything that’s on you. Also, military presence in the country is pretty different from occupation.

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It’s only hilarious if you’re highly propagandised and have never examined any of the absolutely ridiculous propaganda that has led you to feel the way you do about them such as:

Using anti aircraft guns for executions (“according to south korean media” lmao)

They have to push the trains

They all have to get the same haircut

Or that they’re aggressive or something? Like what? How many wars has Korea been in since the US killed 1 fifth of its entire population in the biggest post-holocaust genocide the world has ever seen?

The shit you believe is ridiculous, why do you believe this shit? Why have you never actually said “that sounds fucking stupid”? You don’t examine anything critically at all. You just go with the flow because you’ve seen everyone else be hyper negative about it and never really actually stopped and thought about any of these utterly ridiculous things.

In the meantime, the US is responsible for starting 205 out of 248 conflicts between ww2 and 2010. And yet the DPRK is supposedly a bad rogue state? You’re out of your mind, you do not apply the same principles to one of these countries vs the other, you are guided by FEELS based on whatever propaganda has successfully taken hold in the population. You aren’t really guided by facts or real accessible information we have via the worldbank data and the UN.

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It’s pretty hilarious that you’re so smug and up your own ass you pretend to not understand that other political ideologies exist that may differ from your own. So full of yourself and your own self aggrandizement that you can’t type a sentence without presenting it in such a way as though the other person is so stupid for not seeing things your way. Take your smarmy ass back to reddit. No one likes nor wants you around on their forums

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I’m sure they just weren’t aware that starving your whole population is simply a “differing political ideology.” Cut them some slack.

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You live in the largest, most expensive propaganda machine that’s ever been created by man

You’re talking about a country and an ideology that propaganda machine has been willing to burn the world with nuclear hellfire to contain for a hundred years

Learn about the things you’re talking about. “The forgotten war”

Yes. North Korea is and has always been the good guys.

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You should move there and leave the internet to the rest of us then. Why keep hanging out in the giant propaganda machine, right?

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Sorry, my bad.

“Best Korea” it is.

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Uncritical support to the DPRK in its heroic struggle to rid occupied Korea of the genocidal US Empire. Uncritical support to the Juche ideology and its implementation.

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chronic food shortage stricken, ostracized North Korea “the Good Korea”

Yeah, nobody can be morally good if they’re poor and ostracized. Certainly not some guy who started a religion that underpins much of Western morality to this day.

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hey look, they believe western propoganda

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90% of Gazans experience severe food insecurity whereas 30% of israelis are obese. Whos the “good” country? the fat asses or the ones starving them?

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Uh oh folks we got ourselves a propaganda consumer!

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Wild to me how many replies you’re getting that defend North Korea. A failed state that has a starving population with no freedoms and is completely ostracised from most of the world. By choice.

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A failed state that has a starving population

This is not correct. Food security in the country has drastically improved and continues to improve - FAO data - Unicef data - both support this position.

By choice.

No? The reason it’s ostracised is a UN vote that was successfully passed that has never been challenged since because the DPRK is not in or allowed to join the UN, any attempt to would be immediately veto’d by the west. This is called 1718.


Wild to me how many replies you’re getting that defend North Korea

You see, this here is a problem. You consider simply stating factually true things that people are generally unaware of to be “defending north korea”. You live in ignorance and seek to maintain that ignorance in other people rather than view the situation in a more balanced and academic way.

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Is racism against Koreans allowed in Lemmy?

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wow it’s actually not the exact same map

this seems like a modicum of progress

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The crimes of the empire are so blatant now that even the vassals aren’t comfortable supporting them.

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I do think there is a growing realization in Europe that US has thrown them under the bus.

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You are making the US seem cool calling it The Empire

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if you think that empires are cool then don’t know what to say there

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The idea of a consolidated imperial core is in itself flawed and the idea itself is not applicable to all situations. Though definitely a useful point of view sometimes, using it unconditionally will only deny nuance and differences between core countries, which is not always helpful.

EDIT: Guessing this will probably get downvoted and/or ignored, but if anyone is actually willing to provide or cite some justification/explanation of the map in question, that would be great. Linking the Wikipedia article, whose map differs and has the reasoning of core countries as

They are usually recognized as wealthy states with a wide variety of resources and are in a favorable location compared to other states.

containing several points, which in total are inconsistent by leading to a false dichotomy, is not what I ask and not what I think a map of imperial core states should use for classification.

My reasoning for calling a consolidated core flawed is among other things because it is not taking into consideration the historic development and relationships between core states. Some classify, for example, Scotland as a semi-core due to these reasons.

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https://lemmygrad.ml/c/alwaysthesamemap

lots of examples of what this map emoji means here

I particularly like this one of the countries that recognize Palestine, which is the inverse of the ‘same map’.

https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/f8d50ef2-6638-43e2-86e6-d1ece0d35add.png

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Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !alwaysthesamemap@lemmygrad.ml

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No, this is not an explanation. For something as important as the imperial core, which you claim the map portrays, there needs to be an actual proper definition and reasoning behind it. Having a bunch of loosely corrolated maps is not it. The list of countries that recognize Palestine is also not a proper inverse.

I am just tired of seeing this map spammed. Once some even ridiculed others for not acknowledgeding it as the de facto definition of imperial core. I think this is especially bad due to having yet to see anyone actually putting any effort into analysis of why it looks like it does. Spewing unsubstantiated ideas is for the incoherent bourgeoisie and fascists.

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Guessing this will probably get downvoted

We don’t have downvotes

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You dont. We do.

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Hexbear is also not the only leftist community on Reddit. None of you have still made an attempt to explain the image though, hence why I said and/or ignored.

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What is Hungary doing, compensating for its stance on Ukraine ?

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Owning the EU libs, as Hungary do.

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Viktor gets the slush funds from Russia and the spyware from Israel it makes sense for him

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Being the thorn in everyone’s eye so everyone keeps paying us

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