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The title looks like it’s trying to imply that the thiefs specifically targeted her, when the article makes it more clear that they likely just tried to steal the car not knowing it was from the Secret Service.

Gotta add that clickbait for the views 🙄

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smaller detail has to stay on task–protecting their charge, not chasing down suspects that are no longer an immediate threat. others will do the hunting.

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The immediate goal is to protect. They aren’t going to chase them down. MPD is going to find these guys almost certainly.

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where in the article does it say that democrats are being targeted? In addition, I feel user Ragdoll is correct that the title makes it seem worse that the situation actually was (though I guess there isn’t an easier way to write the title), the SUV was not occupied when the criminals tried to break in. If you’re targeting someone, you probably at least have an idea of who should be inside and whether they just stepped out of the vehicle or stepped in. I doubt the vehicle literally said Biden or “Biden’s family inside” so I doubt it was a group of people walking around, and taking the opportunity to attack Biden or his family. In addition, the article indicates that car jacking have increased 40% in the area, so it really seems like it was a random car jacking.

I kind of think the bigger story is, why were Secret Service shooting at suspects trying to enter an empty vehicle? Unless there were firearms in the vehicle, feels a bit excessive to potentially kill 1 to 4 people over a car break in where no one’s life was in direct danger.

Maybe there’s more missing details that clear up the story so we’d have to wait and see.

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I kind of think the bigger story is, why were Secret Service shooting at suspects trying to enter an empty vehicle?

Someone can correct me if I am wrong, isn’t law enforcement taught to shoot first and then maybe ask questions later?

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Why did they shoot at someone trying to enter an empty vehicle?

Maybe from a security perspective the position is that they assume anyone trying to get into a vehicle they are protecting is intending to harm the occupants, even if the occupants are not in the vehicle and the perps don’t know that.

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Sad thing is, it probably would have generated as many hits if the headline was more open. I mean that’s freaking hilarious in a morbid way - that the would be thieves just happened to pick the wrong car to try and steal.

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The new and improved bait car with active defenses!

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How would you have written it?

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Not OP

Secret Service agents protecting Biden’s granddaughter open fire when 3 people pick the wrong SUV to streal.

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Secret Service Fires Shots at Car Thieves

But we don’t do non sensationalist headlines anymore.

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That implies that there was a right SUV to steal.

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You just made me realize that the original headline doesn’t specify that the SUV is where the granddaughter is. You also make that mistake.

I think we can do better. Let’s see:

Secret Service open fire at thieves who unknowingly attempted to break into SUV carrying Biden’s granddaughter.

And I still think we can do better, but right now I’m le tired.

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Yet here you are.

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Imagine just trying to break into a car and you fucking pick the presidents daughter.

Bad fucking luck there.

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I’m glad that’s “all” it was - a routine car break-in or stolen vehicle. My first thought was that some fucking domestic terrorists/Trump cultists knew exactly what they were doing. Glad it wasn’t that.

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The fact that the car was unoccupied was their saving grace here. One of the agents fired a shot and “missed” which was almost certainly a warning shot. Had someone been in that car, the attempted thieves would almost certainly be dead.

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Warning shots aren’t really a thing in modern law enforcement. Policy is generally if you need to shoot at someone you’re supposed to be trying to neutralize a threat with your bullet and not just attempting to scare someone with it.

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Yup. Me too. It would be on brand.

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That was my assumption too. Do we have indication one way or the other, that it was targeted or random?

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Well, if it was that and Joe Biden’s daughter was in the vehicle, then you might hear random demands being made on her life to either surrender the country to Russia or to the Taliban so it can be changed to either the Russian States of American or the Taliban States of American, which would really have us feeling a mass armed uprising or another civil war is coming.

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Do they ever do?

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Imagine being an idiot in DC and not knowing how government cars/ protected cars look like.

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Yeah if you see a black SUV with tinted windows in DC it should be pretty self explanatory not to fuck with it

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I am pretty sure if I steal the tires off the president’s limo he will be so impressed with me I get to be his new sidekick.

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Tiktok has emboldened a new generation of idiots.

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You’ve got to pretty unobservant in reality. Like hey this car has a police radio and extra antennas. I should definitely keep going, this won’t go bad at all.

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Do they have any obvious identifying marks anymore? My understanding was that they are intentionally pretty non-descript vehicles, not drawing attention

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Yes, they have very distinct license plates which say “US GOVERNMENT VEHICLE” on them.

And this isn’t some diplomatic plate or shit. Any car with the actual fedgov plates is moving VIPs or on their way to do so.

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They don’t have a giant label but it’s not hard to tell either.

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I’ve spent enough time in arcades to know that’s just the plot to a kickass beat-em-up side scroller.

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*granddaughter. Bad luck either way.

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FTA:

Secret Service agents protecting President Joe Biden’s granddaughter opened fire after three people tried to break into an unmarked Secret Service vehicle in the nation’s capital, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press.

Awesome that they were trying to break into a car, and it turned out to be an unmarked Secret Service vehicle.

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That is some seriously bad situational awareness combined with some terribly bad luck for those thieves.

One of the agents opened fire, but no one was struck by the gunfire, the Secret Service said in a statement. The three people were seen fleeing in a red car

Then there is the fortune that they were allowed to flee the scene… unharmed…

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Would they be dare to open another chest, knowing it may become a mimic really fast?

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If they’re anything like my Pathfinder group, yes. They might even be more likely to try cuz you get loot and XP.

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Not gonna lie, you had me in the first half.

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Just use mage hand and ready actions. Mimics are easy to deal with.

I plan to run a campaign one day with mimics that look like dead bodies. That will mess the players up.

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Are we not acknowledging that an agent opened fire on people for breaking into a vehicle? There’s no danger to anyone’s life yet a Secret Service agent just opens fire in public where, based on the article, there were likely hundreds of other citizens around shopping.

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By itself, you are absolutely correct. It’s a property crime and nothing more. When local cops shoot these people, you are right to be upset.

But the secret service (etc) deals in situations where these things may not be isolated. It’s easy to imagine a scenario where step 1 is to isolate/strand the target, while step 2 is much more sinister. Part of their standard operations is going to be ensuring they always have an exit strategy, should the need arise.

Beyond that, there is also the very real danger of terrorism. In this case, it seems that the would-be thieves had no idea who they were targeting. But there are plenty of people who could’ve been following them, waiting for an opportunity.

Also, you’re making a very bold assumption about how many potential bystanders there were. I don’t know the area where it happened, but very little of my shopping has more than a handful of people at a time anywhere near my vehicle.

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Also missed. That’s somewhat worrying

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Breaking into a vehicle being guarded by the Secret Service is absolutely a threat to would-be occupants.

Bombs, tracking devices, exotic methods, even just searching the car is all a tangible threat to the occupant

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Note to self: Don’t fuck with Naomi’s car

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As illegal and unlawful as it would be, I think it would have been infinitely funnier if they had succeeded in car jacking a Secret Service SUV.

Can you imagine seeing some tutorial get uploaded explaining how to bypass the key starter like a KIA lmao

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