Does warmer mean temperature? Color? Something else?

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“Please select all images which evoke melancholy as opposed to existential dread.”

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“choose the roads that fill you with ennui moreso than the avenues that give you a sense of listless”

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That’s like, your opinion man

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9 points

Please try again

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Okay I’ll click the green ones

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I love how so many of these images meant to fool bots are literally generated by AI

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Because their real purpose is to train the bots. The captcha features are just there to get us to use it.

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It’s more complicated than that. Only 2 or 3 images are meant to train AI, the rest are meant to establish whether you’re human enough that AI can learn from you.

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That’s also only partially true. Most of the human detection is done by collecting metadata about your browser and how you interact with the widgets.

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I’d be with you if it weren’t so obvious.

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Doesn’t look like anything to me.

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The most surprising thing is how you and some commenters dont see how obvious and dead simple the answer is

Like, should they show you a block of ice and a fire next time?

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Am neurodivergent, didn’t even occur to me they’d be talking about snow vs indoors. I thought because it is a visual test they meant color temp which for me registered as the middle left, center bottom, and maybe an argument for bottom right.

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I thought the same thing. Was looking for the overall color temperature of the scene, but none really fit.

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Warm could also translate to “cozy” or overall “hue”. Neither would necessarily pick the indoor photos. I don’t think you need to be neurodivergent to be confused, maybe just a little more artistically minded.

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Plus, there’s no way to know what the indoor temperature is. There may be no heating in the houses.

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okay that one is understandable, thank you

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Thanks for reminding me of my neurodivergence, I couldn’t figure it out either.

I was starting to think “ok this one looks lit and cozy, and how am I supposed to tell how well insulated these houses are?”

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More surprising is how apparently some of you haven’t encountered captchas that employ nuance, and what seems like the obvious answer sometimes isn’t.

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my man, its a blizzard and indoors, what part of that has any more nuance than being beaten over the head with the answer

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The different snow images have different color tones, some matching that of the example image. The center image has a cool color tone, which doesn’t match. Captchas are made to defeat AI logic, so sometimes it’s not the obvious thing. It could very well possibly be selecting all images that match the color tone, something a bot may not work out. It could be just selecting indoor images. I wouldn’t know for certain until I got one of these and succeeded or failed. Personally I think it would be too easy for a bot to just ignore all images that have snow, or are mostly white, because that doesn’t resemble the example image at all.

edit: and in case it needs to be said, getting beaten over the head by anything doesn’t involve nuance. That’s the opposite of nuance.

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The thing is that a captcha is made to be solvable by almost anyone.

So whatever you think the answer is, is probably one of the many correct responses.

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It even clearly gives an example of a picture of a living room.

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Something that’s obvious to you isn’t necessarily obvious to everyone.

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The most surprising thing is how you and some commenters dont see how obvious and dead simple the answer is

Like, should they show you a block of ice and a fire next time?

This is an incredibly narrow view of people, and what ‘obvious’ is. This sentence is absolutely awful if you’re ESL in any way:

Please select all images of one type that appear warmer in comparison to other images

Even I stumbled for a second on that sentence. What the hell does ‘appear warmer’ mean? Colour, hue, saturation, is there a temperature reading on them? It can snow at zero degrees, but that middle image could be -20 for all we know; it’s in shadow and the only non-cool-colour in it is that orange rectangle.

I mean, to me, it’s obvious that you add an apostrophe to ‘don’t’ but you didn’t. Your sentence also doesn’t end with a period. Does that mean I get to call you out for missing such an ‘obvious’ thing, and insult you for not doing it? You know, how obvious and dead simple writing your sentence correctly would be.

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I assume this just means “pick inside” without saying it directly. The sample photo is of an inside space. No? The two in the middle row, I assume, are the “correct” answer.

Often the correct answer is only half the puzzle - how you answer (mouse movement) also can be to determine things

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No, there’s far more depth to that. The goal isn’t for you to prove yourself human, the goal is to teach an AI how to “think more human”.

1, 2 and 7 are obviously cold. They’re oustide, with no “warm” colour lighting.

3 and 6 are both green houses, the green house could be considered “warm”, but 3 has light on the inside. This is perhaps a test against AI readers. To a human, they both seem warm inside, but an AI might differentiate based on the lighting.

9 is a dark brown house, but 8 is a light brown house that is illuminated by external lighting. This contrasts with 3 and 6, because 6 has external lighting but it does not illuminate much.

4 and 5 are both internal shots. 4 is light and airy, meanwhile 5 is a bit more grey - but then, grey is the fashion these days.


All in all this is a bullshit test made up by bullshit people looking to get a bullshit result, with which they hope to make money off of.

You’re working to help them make more money, meanwhile they don’t pay you for your labor. They also collect data from your connection to their servers - as well as the website you’re trying to access, you will almost certainly be connecting to at least 2 other servers to deliver this hcaptcha, and thanks to cooperation with the website host hcaptcha will triangulate the internet routing and fingerprinting information to attain a significantly accurate identification of you as an indvidual (which they will then consolidate with whatever other information they have).

Much like a disgruntled worker might “phone it in”, or work within the requirements of their paid employment, or “quiet quit”; you should limit and perhaps even poison the output you give in proportion to what you’re being paid for your labor.

The goal isn’t to satisfy captcha, the goal is to get passed it while giving as little commercial value as they compensate you for.

Your data has value. If it didn’t, then Facebook and Google wouldn’t be amongst the wealthiest businesses in the world. You own the value they establish themselves with, they just claim a license.

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Way to throw a shit fit over paying 5 seconds of labor to use a service

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The service is free to use. My access to it is not conditional to my authentic participation in unpaid labor, and nor is it equivalent.

Personal data has value. Thought has value. Commercial enterprises like this attempt to suppress that value, while simultaneously using it to position themselves amongst the wealthiest businesses in the world. They should pay us for our data.

What they do is akin to a car manufacturer saying they shouldn’t pay the person who makes nuts and bolts, because nuts and bolts have far less value than a car, and the people who make nuts and bolts do not know how to build a car. This is would be a ridiculous scenario; it is also ridiculous that users aren’t paid fairly for their data.

If people were paid fairly for their data, then these businesses would have no scope to raise the price of their product in line with this new (fair) material cost. This is because the cost of their product is already an exaggeration of the value they provide. They sell their product for more than it’s worth, meanwhile they pay their data suppliers (every single human being) nothing. Of course they don’t want you to realise the value they’re taking, doing so could only reduce their profits.

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