I have the lowest of low expectations for Nintendo consoles. They’re always filled to the brim with gimmicks, that while creative, are not fun to use and then the best games are always ones that completely disregard the gimmicks anyhow. I wish they would focus more on making consoles that LOOK and FEEL good when you’re playing instead of trying to create the next new thing no one will care about in 5 years. They also really lost the plot on the Pokemon franchise and I feel like that will start to lose them a lot of money when people start to wake up from their comas and realize Gamefreak doesn’t know how to make video games and the last good one they made was am eternity ago.
I wish they would focus more on making consoles that LOOK and FEEL good when you’re playing instead of trying to create the next new thing no one will care about in 5 years.
Isn’t this basically what they did with the Switch? It’s very low on gimmicks that never get used (infrared? Touchscreen?), its games on the whole look pretty good (Most first party titles), and people still play it over 6 years later. Also Nintendo has nothing to do with the development of Pokémon - so while shit, they hardly deserve the blame for that.
Eh, really it’s a cheap android tablet (sold at a markup) that has a built in slots for some gimmick Bluetooth controllers.
To those I’ve answered… I’m right though. Your switch isn’t some magically engineered hardware from Nintendo. It’s an underpowered android tablet. The only thing Nintendo brought was the joycons. And most games don’t use the gimmicks of those controllers, because the pro controller exists and it’s compatible with every non-gimmick game. And yes it’s a cheap android tablet, it was criticized for being underpowered and using it of date hardware when it was new! Look at its hardware, look at the price. Look at say an Nvidia shield and look at its price.
Sure - but that’s a gimmick that’s pretty widely enjoyed. It’s not like the 3DS’s 3D that pretty much everyone turned off after giving it a shot, or like the Wii’s motion controls that most people got sick of before the console retired. As far as gimmicks go it’s arguably their most successful ever.
By that I mean the fact that it’s handheld - if you were mostly talking about the detachable joycons then I’d agree at least somewhat, especially since they removed that from the Switch Lite - but it is pretty handy in a lot of situations still.
The “joycons” don’t bring me joy. They make my hands cramp and are only full of cons.
I mean, Gamefreak has been shitting out Pokémon “games” for decades now, right? If they didn’t realize that in the last 15 years, would they really care about the next 15? I almost feel like each generation becomes the “default Pokémon experience” for their players.
Lol seriously? I was actually planning to get this but the nore I hear about it, the more I think I’ll wait a few years for the updated version to release. Nintendo doesn’t make very many good games nowadays anyway.
OLED or no thanks.
I really wonder if a Switch 2 will do as well as the first Switch.
More and more handheld gaming PCs are released by the time the Switch 2 comes around. Yes, a Switch 2 does have the advantage of access to Nintendo games (if we ignore Emulators) and I would imagine lower price, but I haven’t touched my Switch since I got the Steamdeck. I even sold an extra Switch Lite I had.
I rarely, basically never used the Switch plugged into a TV. I only played it in handheld mode with a skin that made it more comfortable to hold than a flat brick. Nintendo games rarely drop in price and sales don’t reduce prices by much VS PC games that often go on sale and older games drop to very low prices on sale.
I’m certain there’s a market for a Switch 2, I’m just wondering if it will do as well as the first Switch in the current market with more options.
Most people who play Nintendo Switch do not even know what a steam deck is. The vast vast majority.
Do you have numbers to back that up or are you just speculating. Personally I’d find it weird that someone who games especially on a mobile platform with somehow have not heard of the steam deck. Between social media and targeted news feeds I don’t know how they not hear about it.
This is your notice that you are very much in a bubble. Most gamers have no idea what a steam deck is.
It’s revealing to keep in mind that the Switch sold 125 million units, and the most optimistic estimates put the number of Steam Deck sales around 3 million. Keep in mind that the Steam Deck never aimed to sell as much as major consoles, but that still shows how niche it is in comparison.
I’d buy a Switch 2 if it played first party Switch games at 2K/60fps. Specifically Pokemon, Zelda, and Xenoblade.
For 99+% of the Switch’s target demographic, there aren’t options.
They have never heard of the Deck, the Ally, or any of the other handheld PCs. They know three things about gaming: Nintendo, PlayStation, and Xbox. Those last two don’t let them play Mario, Zelda, or Smash Bros., and they certainly don’t let them play on the go, so they essentially only have one option.
I love my Deck and I hope to see the handheld PC market continue to grow and evolve, but it’s just delusional to think that it will ever get to a point where it will have even the slightest impact on the third-best-selling console of all time (or, more to the point, its successor).
I mainly got a steamdeck as the switches are occupied by the kids. For portability it is way worse than the switch - and the removable controllers on the switch are great, especially for some mukltiplayer games. I feel most of the games making proper use of those didn’t make the jump from the wii, though - for movement games in front of the TV the wii is still regularly used. Switch mostly is used as handheld.
Plenty of people forget that Nintendo needs to hit a price point on this device. So there are some things we might not think are ideal but need to be the way they are to make financial sense. Things like storage size, screen tech, are two of the areas where a compromise might have been needed. Also let’s not pretend that there aren’t good LCD screens that could be used, OLED isn’t the be all and end all.
