most people hate ai, but the bots on lemmy are an acception since they bring life to the communities when activities dries up. I mean- am I wrong here?thoughts? opinions?
actually I see what some of you mean, regarding bots can kill communities, because real users know what stories are worth sharing. When bots do it right though, i still believe it drives up conversation when people aren’t posting, when real users engage in conversation in the comments and talk about the article that the bot shared. Which was my major point for bots, but not to really replace real users. which I feel some of you thought I meant it to that degree, of which I did not.
I’m going to try the block all bots setting myself. perhaps it isn’t as less active active when the bots don’t just sometimes come in and post an article here or there. I’m gonna do a small personal test to see if it feels any different in a good or bad way over all.
another thing i’m confirming right now is that I don’t want there to just be bots. I was just saying that sometimes bots can help start conversations when people aren’t posting. when done right, it seems to work. sure it isn’t always done right, but there have been times when it started good conversations with real people in the post.
I feel people are just misunderstanding, I don’t see why there’s so much backlash, let me explain my thoughts process in more detail.
my idea was actually more like this.
sometimes a bot might post an article, sometimes a real person. if the article is relavent, then real people might join in to discuss the article, which on this community this happens.
The backlash is because people do not want bots to overrun and kill our communities because we recognise that is exactly what they do. Even if a bot were to post something interesting it is reducing the opportunity for a human to post the same thing. This reduces engagement in the long run. Communities are extremely dependant on posters, not just commenters. You could have a bot post an interesting article that stirs a lot of discussion, but in the long run fewer people will be coming back as there is no incentive to put any work in.
Look what’s happened to Facebook for example. Most of the feed got overrun by generated content instead of user posts. Now who seriously engages with Facebook other than just endlessly scrolling and your odd person who overshares every intimate detail.
You’re saying a bot can pose a discussion prompt (taken from some rss feed or whatever), a totally reasonable (if perhaps not ideal) observation.
A lot of the people in this thread seem to be assuming you’re talking about GPT or whatever making up threads whole-cloth.
You did say “ai” though, so this is kinda on you.
I did say ai. I said
“ai, but the bots.” People in this thread were actually legitly saying their stance on bots. and also on ai. which, if I’m wrong then i’m wrong, I accept the critisism. personally this post could be a meme at this point. 27 downvotes, that’s crazy on Lemmy. I hadn’t seen a post on this communitywith as many, not sure if that’s a record or not. for this community.
edit: now 26 and if any changes further, then that’s where the number is .
For what it’s worth, even though I don’t agree with you, I think this is an interesting post and discussion, so I’ve upvoted it. Thank you.
most people hate ai
I don’t think that’s true. There’s a lot of concern about it – particularly regarding companies scraping the everloving shit out of the internet and then reselling what they got for free; with it upending the apple cart on difficulty of production (and what that means for various professions); with people using it idiotically in inflexible, unauditable, bureaucratic ways (though they were already doing that “computer says ‘No’” thing even without the new AI techniques; it’s a broader social challenge that involves any computerized processing of people in 2023); etc. – but people are using it as a tool to do really neat things too, and a lot of the results from that are just fun.
Here’s a few examples of fun AI visual art from threads I’ve seen over the last few weeks:
- What have you DONE?! – https://feddit.de/post/4778843
- (Somewhat disturbing) Elvis performing a circumcision on a sentient hotdog – https://lemmy.ca/post/6735764
- (Mild NSFW) Sexy Anthropomorphic Plane – https://lemmy.ml/post/7072314
- When a Ninja Turtle’s Addiction Has Gone Too Far – https://lemmy.world/post/7522233
- Banana-Whale – https://lemmy.ml/post/7598841
- Storing Linux Commands as Bottled Spells in a Sorcerer’s Library – https://lemmy.world/post/7463201
- Doughy Desert Colossus – https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/7336600
- Spiderman providing therapy to Batman – https://lemmy.world/post/7520721
- Hot Spaghetti 3 – https://lemmy.world/post/8035624
- Back to work – https://lemmy.world/post/7539961
- This entire thread is fun if you want more: Your username is the prompt, what did you get?
For some of these, something similar might have been made eventually (the spiderman one, in particular, I could see actually existing), but for most of them? Nah. Without AI gen they probably just never would’ve been made, and that’d be a shame!
It might not or mightt be true, I know a lot of artist hate it, you’d be hard pressed to not find any that does not like ai, not saying that no one out of these groups could not appreciate it. I do think ai can be great, but it’s all over the internet, that people just don’t like ai. Might even be 50-50 60-40 who knows, but it’s still a noticable amount.
No, we absolutely do not agree on this.
Even if bots were AI (they aren’t, for the most part), their presence propping up dead communities DOES NOT HELP ANYONE. If nobody’s there talking, it’s because there’s nothing to be said. Either leave it lie until people show up to talk about that topic again, or let it die, and let a different community take its place. Nobody is harmed by communities running out of steam. Conversations do not have to go on forever.
This. I only come here because I’m interested in what citizens of the fediverse have to say/think is interesting or important.
If I wanted to know what some bot thinks is important I’d be on a bot aggregate site. Scraper bots are no better, If I wanted redditors to be setting my reading agenda I’d be over there.
