Exciting news for who? Only the site owner is excited that a free resource now requires a subscription
“Yay! Now I have to pay another subscription! I’m so excited! Let’s celebrate with them!” - nobody
I have no skin in this game but I think it sounds like they need to change their name from “open subtitles” to “closed captioning”
Edit: stupid STT
Gather all the worlds subtitles under the guise of being “open” and then bait and switch when you’re the largest subtitles database out there.
The free API had a limit of 20 subs/day, you’re not going to tell me those server costs were significant.
The new API has the exact same free limit. They’re just dropping support for the old API soon and people who want to depend on the old version will need to pay for its continued support because they want to push everyone onto the new site/API
I think it goes from 20 to 5. 10 if you’re not anonymous. To get more you need to have contributed to the site, monetarily or other wise.
The minimum for anonymous is 10/day. If you sign up and do nothing else it’s 20.
If you sign up and upload a single file it goes to 50. If you upload 51 subtitles it’s 100. If you upload 101 or more it goes to 200, and if you upload 1001 it goes up to 300.
If you pay $15/year it’s 1000
And yeah sure, server costs and all. OTOH, subtitle files are tiny, so there’s only so much money you can ask for it realistically.
I bet they can put all the subtitles of every movie and show in history on a single 10TB hard drive.
Why is it called “OpenSubtitles” if you have to pay for it to use it in any capacity?
Probably because anyone can contribute to it. But you have to pay to use them.
Kinda like another website that recently made this change…
It’s “Open” in the same way that OpenAI is “Open”.
“Open” ≠ “Open Source” or “Open Access”. It’s more like: “Open for Business”.
Your consumer can query the API on its own, and download 5 subtitles per IP’s per 24 hours, but a user must be authenticated to download more. Users will then be able to download as many subtitles as their ranks allows, from 10 as simple signed up user, to 1000 for VIP user.
I think it’s reasonable move. They have Legacy API that cost them a lot of manhours to maitain and they decided to cut on costs and replace it with a new thing. Sadly they decresed amount of api calls from 20 to 5 [needs citation]
I think they don’t have good PR guy to better communicate the change
Subtitles are like 5kb text files, why even limit their downloads in any way?
The overhead isn’t the storage but the request. Processing a request takes CPU time, which can get expensive when people setup a media server and request subtitles for dozens of movies and shows. Every episode of a TV show is a separate request and that can add up fast when you scale it to thousands of users.
If they’re storing them in something like Amazon s3, there is a cost (extremely low, but not free) associated with retrieving data regardless of size.
Even if they were an entirely free service, it’d make sense to put hard rate limits on unauthenticated users and more generous rate limits on authenticated ones.
Leaving out rate limits is a good way to discover that you have users who will use your API real dumb.
Their pricing model seems fucked, but that’s aside from the rate limits.
Yeah this is absolutely not an insignificant fee. Especially if they have millions of requests… There be plenty of caching solutions to save on this though, especially since they wouldn’t change often.
a typical (full subtitle) .srt file for a movie is like 100-200 kb - still not much, but 5 is a little off
Subtitle are like 1h worth of content, why even download more than 10 a day?
They could make it 20 and it wouldn’t change much I guess, 10 does seem a bit low, but if they make it 1000/day (which you could argue is “no heavier than one JPEG”) they’ll have Kodi addons or whatever attempting to auto-download an entire library’s worth of subtitles. It’s not about the throughput, it’s about the processing time of establishing connections, negotiating cyphers, processing a request, hitting a search indexer, etc. All those small costs add up if every day you have thousands of users downloading hundreds of file without giving anything back.
Electricity aint exactly free. Even if the data they store is minuscule. Servers will pull >300w if you store 10gb or 2000gb.
well it has been deprecated for a few years, and they’re basically asking you to play for continued support.
they have a new REST api, but you still need the old one, pay up because otherwise there’s no motivation to keep it around.
