Senior men have higher rates of suicide than average, and firearms were involved in more than three-quarters of those deaths in 2021, according to a CDC report

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Apparently it is “partisan clickbait” because it talks about a real issue in the USA and that rustles their fucking jimmies apparently.

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The real issue is that assisted suicide is basically illegal in the USA…you turned it into a gun issue…

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Its a gun issue because most people see that as the “easiest” way of achieving it because they haven’t done even cursory basic research into effective suicide methods.

Just because it is illegal doesn’t mean a gun is the only option.

Guns are used in dumb fits of passion because it is easy and at-hand for a lot of people.

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how do you see these alarming suicide rates and think " oh we should give them a better way to kill themselves " instead of " why in the hell is that many people wanting to die???"

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Good job in taking a serious issue and putting an unnecessary partisan spin on it, CNN. The issue of guns needs to be sidelined when talking about issues as serious as suicide.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/suicide-rate-by-country

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Suicide is a problem around the world, guns or not. Focus on the issue, not click-bait titles.

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Yet it’s a huge issue because of guns in the US.

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It has been repeatedly and conclusively demonstrated that means reduction (which the pro-gun community won’t allow) and survivability (which guns don’t have) play an extremely important role in suicide prevention.

Guns are absolutely part of the issue. Unfortunately, the pro-gun community prioritises sweeping gun deaths under the rug to maintain their profits and possessions over actually protecting anyone.

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If Republicans actually gave a shit about mental health maybe we wouldn’t have so many gun suicides.

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Yeah but then they’d have even more mental gymnastics to do with bootstraps and all that

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Or suicides generally.

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So suicide is a republican problem hey.

Get a grip. Stop using every topic to gain political points, it’s disingenuous.

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They’re the ones who keep saying “it’s not a gun problem it’s a mental health problem” and then doing fuck all to improve mental health, so yeah.

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I don’t really see the problem with elderly people who decide they want to check out. If we allowed medically assisted death, they could die with dignity.

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Most of it is caused by depression, not terminal illness.

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Still need the option to check out on your own terms.

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Doesn’t change my opinion

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I imagine in many cases depression caused by their failing bodies and inability to lead a happy life due to it. That and their partner probably recently dying.

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Suicide isnt reported in many places, because it is a social and religious taboo. For example the greek orthodox church still refuses to bury people who killed themselves(and 99% of greeks used to be christian orthodox, though atheism is becoming more popular nowadays).

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Do they still refuse to bury unbaptized kids as well?

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Only if they were allowed to bugger them first.

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Ban guns that will fix the mental health problem…

Sarcasm for those unable to spot click bait. Might as well have titled the story “Death the leading cause of suicide among elderly men”…

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we should ban rope as well just to be safe

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Why does the US mentality always revolve around a single cause?

It’s clear that the availability of an instantaneous way to end your life on a whim with zero effort and zero percieved pain is going to facilitate a lot of suicides. No, banning it wont stop suicide, but it would absolutely reduce them. To suggest otherwise is simply statistically disingenuous, regardless of how much you have the right to bear them or not.

But if guns are part of the US identity and culture then so be it, but that means spending on mental health outcomes and prevention need to dramatically increase.

It’s a cost either way, whichever side of the gun debate you are on

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Oh buddy, thinking it’s 0 perceived pain is something I’d like to understand. Why do people think gunshots don’t cause pain?

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Nitrogen ftw.

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If you understand suicide even a little bit you would know men do not fuck about when it comes to suicide. There is little in between, no cry’s for help they are rare. guns are a tool to achieve the outcome and the statistics will never change.

So this click bait title is just stupid anti-gun garbage. Men will ALWAYS be the higher suicide rate no matter what.

Up next water is wet.

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If you understood even a little bit about suicide you would understand that sucidial ideation proceeds action, and ideation involves stimulus from the immediate locale.

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Toxic masculinity is what you’re describing. It’s very prevalent in the US. Guns are part of that toxic male culture.

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So?

We value capital here, not human life.

As an American, shouldn’t our glorious free capitalist market celebrate these depleted capital batteries taking themselves out of the equation and lowering the tax burden on our beloved job creators requiring social supports once they can no longer make them money as fast food employees or store greeters?

What kind of Americans would put value on human life that can no longer generate private shareholder value? Smh, ya’ll need to find supply side Jesus.

To be fair though, the common method is as American as apple pie baseball vast homeless tent cities. 🇺🇸🎶 Oh say can you seeee…today’s mass shooting on teevee… 🎶🇺🇸

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Well see, capitalism isn’t about productivity. It’s about maximizing capital. More consumers means more spending, and more money moving to people maximizing capital. So… Capitalism hates the death of consumers and loves procreation even more.

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But you’re only a consumer if you have money to spend. If you’re broke, you’re out of the market.

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To be fair, each additional person is a net gain for society’s wealth on average.

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Leftists can’t do math, or they wouldn’t be leftists.

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True dat.

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From earnings and potential earnings, people are. The elderly are the worst consumers by far, any piece of shit proud sociopathic capitalist will tell you that.

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Worst? Well, it depends. 🙂 When the elderly are so fucking far gone, their minds are gone, and they require to be put into a home…if they happen to have built up wealth…it is extracted from them pretty quickly. They’re a consumer on steroids, providing jobs & income to others. A decent nursing home where I live will run $70K annually, and that doesn’t cover medications. Divide that by 365, their family is shelling out, at bare minimum, $191 every single day for them to “live”. That’s a lot of cash!

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You really don’t need to talk that way.

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I genuinely wish I didn’t.

But Alas, this cruel nation makes respect impossible for me, and in lieu of any power, my only solace is making mockery of our unrepentant oppressors and this exploitation camp of a “society.”

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TRUE DAT! no, my capslock isnt on.

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No no no, we must keep them alive on life support for as long as their bank balance remains. Them after that we shall keep going until their entire family line is in debt to us. Brilliant!

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Guns just add dangerous violence to everything.

In a shooting event, the “good guy” trying to stop a bad guy with a gun can still accidentally hit innocent bystanders with bullets. By adding more bullets flying, they’ve effectively made the situation more dangerous, and now when incompetent cops show up, they’ll think anyone with a gun is the shooter.

In a suicide, you’re not only risking it not working because you didn’t explode enough of your own head, you’re also putting other people in danger, depending on the caliber of bullet and gun used. You could easily have the bullet exit the back of your head and enter your neighbors apartment and harm someone on the other side. You could also live through your attempted suicide and have an even worse life with a totally disfigured face.

Guns make everything worse.

If you need defense in a shooting/violent attack, carry a high-powered flashlight that you can temporarily blind an attacker with, allowing you and others to escape in their confusion and/or get close enough to disarm the assailant.

If you want to off yourself, buy a fucking Exit Bag and get some god damned helium.

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Guns have nothing to do with this and you fell victim to partisan click-bait. You got perfectly distracted from the real issue of suicide, it seems.

You are making some bold assumptions that a person that is in that headspace actually gives a fuck about anything else or anyone else.

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Art imitates life. I equate it to using a weapon as literary device. If you’re reading a book and the author mentions a gun on the table, that gun will be used.

Think of how many minor traffic accidents or drunk arguments at birthday parties result in deadly consequences because just like our author, if someone has a gun, they may use it.

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