WACO — Standing in front of a massive state flag on Saturday, Claver Kamau-Imani outlined his utopian vision of a Nation of Texas that he believes is just on the horizon.

No taxes or Faucis, no speed zones or toll roads. No liberals, no gun laws. No windmills, no poor people. A separate currency, stock market and gold depository. “Complete control of our own immigration policy.” World-class college football, a farewell to regulators. And unthinkable, unimaginable wealth.

“We are going to be so rich,” he chanted. “We’re gonna be rich. We are gonna be rich. We. Are. Going. To Be. Rich! … As soon as we declare independence, we’re going to be wealthy. I personally believe that our personal GDP will double in five to seven years.”

“The independence of Texas is good for humanity as a whole,” he added to cheers.

Kamau-Imani, a Houston-based preacher, was among 100 or so people who spent the weekend at the Waco Convention Center for the first conference of the Texas Nationalist Movement, which since 2005 has advocated for the Lone Star State to break away from the United States — a “TEXIT,” as they call it.

Supporters of the movement said they are more energized and optimistic than ever about the prospect of an independent Texas, and pointed to appearances or support from current and former lawmakers — including state Sen. Bob Hall, R-Edgewood, who spoke at the event — as evidence that their movement is far from fringe. The get-together also came as TEXIT supporters celebrated what they believe is crucial momentum: Days before the meeting, the Texas Nationalist Movement announced that it was more than halfway to the roughly 100,000 signatures needed to put a non-binding secession referendum on the Texas Republican primary ballot.

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Yes please secede. Texas has enough electoral votes that if it split off, the modern republican party would never win again.

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Texas is an economic base - let them try, so they can get fucked to dust like the last batch of racists, but they shouldn’t be allowed to succeed.

That would be stupid.

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It’s an economic base now. If they secede the major companies there are not staying. They can grandstand all they want about Texas taxes but they will not want to lose our on being an American company and deal with trying to switch to bring a foreign company operating in the US.

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Your comment makes me wonder something - in a magical hypothetical world where Texas leaves the US, in additon to companies leaving, large government installations like military bases or mission control centers would also have to close. Aren’t those things also drivers of economic activity? Houston would have a problem…

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I’m looking forward to buying a Colorado Instruments calculator.

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major companies there are not staying.

I wouldn’t assume that. This new State will strip away all sorts of federal labor & consumer protections, to the advantage of capitalists. New Texas will be a neocolony of the US, to the detriment of working class Texans.

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If they were allowed to then the US Military would leave and the Mexican military would roll right in and claim it for themselves. I say let them. See ya, bye!

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So are California and New York. I think we’ll manage. In fact whole Texas has the 8th highest GDP vs the world, California beats it at 5th. New York trails a bit at 10th.

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Like always, the equilibrium will just adjust around a different center. It would definitely be a big shift to the left without the largest red state.

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The Republican Party hasn’t needed voters to win for at least the last 30 years.

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That’s wholly incorrect. If it was at all true, they wouldn’t be working so hard to prevent people from voting or to build a tribal voting base that votes based on party affiliation.

Your vote absolutely matters, and the 2020 election, the midterms, and the recent state general elections are all proof of that.

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“We are going to be so rich,” he chanted. “We’re gonna be rich. We are gonna be rich. We. Are. Going. To Be. Rich! … As soon as we declare independence, we’re going to be wealthy. I personally believe that our personal GDP will double in five to seven years.”

😂

Oh, he’s serious. Where would the food come from? Because Texas is terrible for farming. You can’t live off of beef.

Days before the meeting, the Texas Nationalist Movement announced that it was more than halfway to the roughly 100,000 signatures needed to put a non-binding secession referendum on the Texas Republican primary ballot.

Non-binding‽ Stop! I can’t take it! 🤣

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Texas seceding would be peak FAFO entertainment if it weren’t for all the innocent people who would get fucked over. It’d be like the US’s own little brexit.

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Yeah, this is very much not the threat they think it is, and if anything it would go even worse than brexit and that’s already one of the worst clusterfucks in recent history. All it would take is less than a year later when everyone is starving and freezing to death yet again due to Texas shit power infrastructure failing during winter storms for these morons to maybe finally realize they are in fact the problem. Or maybe not, they’re still in deep deep denial about all kinds of things.

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I’d vote against the US providing them humanitarian aid.

Let them beg Mexico for help

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Brexit was non binding…

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Fair point, but secession is only something Texas politicians bring up to win easy political points with these kinds of people. It gets tossed around all the time, especially when things don’t go their way in elections, and these rubes eat it up. They would never vote on it seriously.

The politicians know it would be economic and political suicide, because Texas does not have the infrastructure to be autonomous, unlike the UK, which was autonomous before joining the EU.

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Talking as someone from the UK, we have been fucked by Brexit, (well by the Tories in general) it’s just hidden by layers of bureaucracy. Inflation has been sky high for the last year or so. We also have the most expensive energy prices in the world.

Just because it is stupid, doesn’t mean politicians won’t run with it.

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Lol oh my god I genuinely hope they try it - especially if it becomes a “promised land” for MAGA types and Nationalist Christians. We’ll vote with our feet, and I’m pretty confident the results will be quite unambiguous.

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Maybe they will try to grow something in Odessa. 😃

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Where would the food come from? Because Texas is terrible for farming.

Citation needed.

You can’t live off of beef.

…citation needed

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See the bulletpoint that covers the breakdown of agricultural products. There’s a reason cattle is over half of Texas agriculture and corn is less than Greenhouse & Nursery:

https://www.texasagriculture.gov/About/Texas-Ag-Stats

Also worth noting is that the corn plants produced are quite small compared to places like Illinois and Iowa. The complex soils combined with the generally higher temperatures are not good for produce like corn and wheat, but it is good for cotton (second place for market value, but still much less than cattle). Texas is far from the Breadbasket.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breadbasket#The_Americas

As for whether you can live off of beef, I’ll leave you in suspense.

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If he’s a preacher why hasn’t his church had his tax exempt status removed. All federal perks or aid to him or his church need to be taken away

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Am agreeing with cowboy. Great state of Texas is independent and strong thinker, like Putin. Must show US their secession in order to live among the free peoples. Certainly they will become very wealthy. I am woman of color who works in factory and is liberal.

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No Liberals? Do they plan to sell Austin?

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I imagine they’re planning to purge Austin.

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austin has people who call themselves liberals; not actual liberals.

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