Still a piece of garbage. Can’t they simply admit they were wrong and add a permanent panel with icons (like Windows or Mac) at the bottom of the screen and move on?
I mean if oyu don’t like it, then don’t use it or install an extension. I never missed a bar at the bottom and can find all open windows in the overview very quickly
Yes but extensions work to a degree and not out of the box. For instance, when they abandoned desktop icons a long time ago we never had and extension that delivered the same polished experience.
GNOME has some quite strict design guidelines (a “vision”, if you will). And sticking to that a vision has enabled them to create a very polished DE (probably the most polished DE on Linux). What people get wrong is that GNOME wasn’t really made for desktops. It was made for mobile devices (laptops, tablets, and in the future phones). Using GNOME on a “proper” mobile device really makes sense. No, that doesn’t mean using a laptop connected to an external monitor all the time, or just using it at a desk all the time. It means using a laptop as a laptops, going out and about, using it without a mouse and using it with it’s internal display.
I’m guessing everyone who likes GNOME (me included) only uses it because of its unique workflow. And that’s exactly why people were hesitant by GNOME 3 (besides the UI. I’m not a linux user from that time but damn the UI was weird seeing some old screenshots)
At the time they went in a different direction with Gnome 3 it wasn’t so much the direction itself, as the fact they gave people no choice.
One day you were happily using your Gnome 2 desktop, the next you were being told “we’re changing everything, deal with it”. Not “hey we’re forking Gnome 2 to try something new, see if you like it and maybe switch”, no, it was “we’re changing it and you’re gonna like it”.
It’s this “mommy knows best” attitude that’s always pissed people off about Gnome.
@TCB13 @thegreenguy I prefer it the way it is. If you love the Windows design so much, just use KDE.
No, KDE is even worse than GNOME. GNOME has some sense of design and things are properly designed most of the time, consistent spacing between elements and whatnot, KDE fails on that. GNOME fails on providing a basic desktop experience to those familiar with Windows and macOS.
GNOME is easily modified to suit those workflows. Some distros even offer simple apps to do the heavy lifting of setting up a layout for you, like Manjaro and Zorin.
What do you use atm?
I can’t agree as I love Gnome and now feel lost when I have to use windows or MacOs. The way it uses the workspace and the way your screen isn’t cluttered with informations is great for someone like me.
And extensions are there to help you with almost every limitation you encounter.
They weren’t wrong. There is no need for a panel, you can just type what program you want. It’s not year 2000 anymore.
Besides, Plasma is much more like Windows. It has panels, lots of windows and bugs.
you can just type what program you want. It’s not year 2000 anymore.
Typing the name of the program you want is a 1970s thing.
Yes ironically desktop environments “revolutionized” computing by not having a way to type what program we want to then, after decades re-introduce that :D
Dash to panel/dock + Arc Menu? ;)
I know it’s contentious but for laptops and limited size displays I love the GNOME layout over KDE. Gestures are also way better, even on X11.
It does everything MacOS was trying to do, but executes it way better. I say this as someone who uses MacOS daily for work.
It has some pain points but there’s a reason it’s such a large part of the Linux ecosystem
This is really cool. I install extensions to remove the Activities button and display a workspace indicator.
A lot of Workspaces might present a problem though. Currently, the Workspace indicator extension with collapse into a number after 8, or so, and I’m not sure how that scenario would work with the proposal.
It seems more and more that the GNOME extension ecosystem is going to make it more customizable than Plasma one day
KDE’s user created widgets and kwin scripts is still more flexible and powerful, and Gnome has been falling behind for a long time. Pretty much everyone would have to give up on Plasma and choose to maintain Gnome extensions instead - I don’t think that’s likely.
As long as I can hit the top left for the activities or a similar/more useful screen, I am happy
That seems l like a fine addition, although visually an explicit number being shown would be enough and even better imho.
