116 points

Thing is: there is always the “next better thing” around the corner. That’s what progress is about. The only thing you can do is choose the best available option for you when you need new hardware and be done with it until you need another upgrade.

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Exactly. The best time to buy a graphics card is never

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really my rule of thumb has always been when it’s a significant upgrade.

for a long time i didn’t really upgrade until it was a 4x increase over my old. certain exceptions were occasionally made. nowadays i’m a bit more opportunistic in my upgrades. but i still seek out ‘meaningful’ upgrades. upgrades that are a decent jump over the old. typically 50% improvement in performance, or upgrades i can get for really cheap.

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4x…? Even in older cards that’s more than a decade between cards.

A 4080 is only 2.5x as powerful as a 1080ti, those are 5 years apart.

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It depends on what you need. I think usually you can get the best bang for buck by buying the now previous generation when the new one is released.

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5 points

Yup just picked up a whole PC with rtx3090 for $800.

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9 points

Graphics card. Not even once.

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1 point

Real gamers use ayahuasca.

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9 points

Is it compound or straight percentage?

Cuz if it’s just straight percentage then it’s $20 a year, whereas if it is compound then it’s a 2X multiplier every three and a half years roughly.

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Once you need it, or, alternatively, once you have enough to live comfortably for the rest of your life. It’s exponential growth, you only get one chance, just gotta decide what your goal with the money actually is.

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4 points

Press it before you retire

Same with graphics cards

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Yeah it’s always that: “I want to buy the new shiny thing! But it’s expensive, so I’ll wait for a while for its price to come down.” You wait for a while, the price comes down, you buy the new shiny thing and then comes out the newest shiny thing.

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Yep. There will always be “just wait N months and there will be the bestest thing that beats the old bestest thing”. You are guaranteed to get buyers remorse when shopping for hardware. Just buy what best suits you or needs and budget at the time you decided is the best.time for you (or at the time your old component bites the dust) and then stop looking at any development on those components for at least a year. Just ignore any deals, new releases, whatever and be happy with the component you bought.

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6 points

I bought a 1080 for my last PC build, downloaded the driver installer and ran the setup. There were ads in the setup for the 2k series that had launched the day before. FML

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9 points

Yep. I bought a 4080 just a few weeks ago. Now there is ads for the refresh all over… Thing is: you card didn’t get any worse. You thought the card was a good value proposition for you when you bought it and it hasn’t lost any of that.

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3 points

choose the best available option

“The” point. Which is the best available option?

The simplest answer would be “price per fps”.

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7 points

Not always. I’m doing a lot of rendering and such. So FPS aren’t my primary concern.

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62 points

I’m so sick of Nvidia’s bullshit. My next system will be AMD just out of spite. That’s goes for processors as well

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18 points

That’s exactly why I’ve been using AMD for the past 2 years. Fuck Nvidia

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only thing keeping me is CUDA and there’s no replacement for it. I know AMD has I-forgot-what-it’s-called but it is not a realistic option for many machine learning tasks.

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14 points

I went with an AM5 and an Intel Arc GPU. Quite satisfied, the GPU is doing great and didn’t cost an arm and a leg.

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5 points

How is the stability in modern games? I know the drivers are way better now but more samples is always great.

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6 points

Like, new releases? I don’t really play many new games.

Had Baldur’s Gate III crash once, and that’s the newest title I’ve played.

Other than that I play Final Fantasy XIV, Guild Wars 2, The Sims and Elden Ring, never had any issues.

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Considering the price of a 4070 vs the 7800XT, the 4070 makes a lot more sense where I live.

But yes, the way AMD makes their software open to use (FSR, FreeSync) and they put DisplayPort 2.1 on their cards, they create a lot of goodwill for me.

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The only thing giving me pause about ATI cards is their ray tracing is allegedly visibly worse. They say next gen will be much better, but we shall see. I love my current non ray tracing card, an rx590, but she’s getting a bit long in the tooth for some games.

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17 points

ATI

“Now that’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time”

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21 points

Not since, oh before most of Lemmy was born. I’m old enough to remember when Nvidia were the anti-monopoly good guys fighting the evil Voodoo stranglehold on the industry. You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

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I have to admit I still tend to call them that, too. Oldttimers I guess.

The first GPU I remember being excited to pop into my computer and run was a Matrox G400 Max. Damn I’m old.

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19 points

i saw a 4080 on amazon for 1200, shits crazy

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All three cards are rumored to come with the same memory configuration as their base models…

Sigh.

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8 points

Give us more fucking vram you dicks.

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1 point

I have 12gb vram, do I need more?

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17 points

Major refresh means what nowadays? 7 instead of 4 percent gains compared to the previous generation?

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The article speculates a 5% gain for the 4080 super but a 22% gain for the 4070 super which makes sense because the base 4070 was really disappointing compared to the 3070.

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2 points

Will the price be the same or up to 22% more expensive?

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3 points

You’ll pay 30% more for the honor of owning a 4 series

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For anything ML related, having the additional memory is worth the investment, as it allows for larger models.

That said, at these prices it raises the question if it is more sensible to just throw money at GCP or AWS for their GPU node time.

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