57 points

I’d hope this would lead to a mass-migration to Firefox…

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Normal people don’t care about ads. Every time I tell someone I hate ads they look at me like an alien.

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“What, you don’t have patients?” No, I just respect my time more than that. I’m going to waste it on my terms.

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I think you mean patience. Patients refer to people under the care of a doctor.

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It won’t. People are too used to using what they’re already using.

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5 points

Chrome is .69 seconds faster, RHEEEEEEEE

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2 points

Faster than what? Safari?

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I wonder if people refuse to switch cars because the other model/brand is “totally different” than what they drive… Like, it has a steering wheel, gas pedal, brake pedal in the regular location, wtf else do you need?? A browser is a browser is a browser to me. I don’t get it.

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Yes, most people do refuse to switch cars. They will drive and repair their current one until it breaks, although it is for economic reasons. Similarly, people won’t bother switching banks even if you pay them; most banks in the US offer $200-300 signing bonuses. You’ll also see that people don’t switch jobs even if they would get a 5-10% pay rise doing the same tasks. People won’t go to different grocery stores even if they’re a similar distance away and the other store offers better selection or prices. Hell, people won’t even bother switching toothpaste brands.

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People used to be used to using internet explorer and Netscape navigator. Times change.

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People in business environments: “what’s wrong with IE6?”

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I use Firefox, but it doesn’t work everywhere. Some financial sites, and Ticketmaster won’t let you use Firefox. It’s bullshit, but that’s the way it is.

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Every such case is another reason to use Firefox.

Fuck them.

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I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying. You can’t just say “fuck off” if your bank requires another browser, or if you want to go to an event and the only place to get tickets is Ticketmaster. It’s not right, but you have to use a browser that works.

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I ordered tickets through Ticketmaster on Firefox recently. Don’t know if that’s a recent change, but it worked fine for me.

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It has never worked for me through Firefox mobile. I haven’t tried on the desktop, but maybe it works there. Every time a friend sends me baseball tickets I have to copy the link and paste it into chrome to get them.

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I’ve already gone there. I can’t browse without an ad blocker.

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welcome to firefox everybody! good of you to join us

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As a reminder, Firefox’s Manifest v3 implementation will differ from Google’s. Additionally, it isn’t that Manifest v3 is the problem, it is that Manifest v2 compatibility is being mostly removed from all browsers. You can literally have V2 and V3 in your browser no issue technically there.

But it is important to remember what prompted this. Most extension authors are well meaning people, but in due course they will make decisions that aren’t exactly widely accepted. Case in point was Stylish which was an extension that allowed one to apply various CSS styles to websites. Long story short, good intentions by the author, poor execution.

Manifest v3 was aimed to reduced the vectors that things like Stylish used to carryout their activities. This however, does damage the ability for uBlock to handle some of the various sophisticated ways adverts gets into your webpage. Firefox’s implementation is an attempt to meet some middle ground. Additionally, Google has made some concessions to the final format of Manifest v3 to permit SOME ad-blocking that uBlock has indicated that they need.

In the end the important thing to remember is that uBlock Origin’s manifest V2 version will be ending soon. There is a “lite” version of uBlock Origin that is compatible with Manifest v3, your mileage may vary with it however. Firefox offers the only solution at this time that is permissive enough to continue uBlock Origin’s current development and ability to block most sophisticated adverts from getting into your page.

And the whole Manifest v3 issue highlights just how not open web standards are today. Yes, there is a standards body that issues the standards that govern the web. That body was once independent and sought a web for all. Today that standards body is mostly “what’s Google doing?” And that has become problematic and mostly is why “everything is Chromium” at this point. Folks like Opera and Microsoft saw the political landscape at the Web Standards changing, read the writing on the wall, and converted over to Chromium. The vast majority of the issue is that the standards committee has become complicit in just accepting whatever Google offers up as a purposed standard. They have become mostly a rubber stamp for the machinations of Google’s engineers to the detriment of everyone.

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I had heard that they put that plan on indefinite hold, but I guess that hold is over. Anything for the ad bucks, huh?

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That was for web drm, which would verify your browser and reject you if it has been altered (plugins). I guess they just decided they’ll take an easier and less complicated route and just outright block the plugin directly.

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Pretty sure that was the other one where a third party validates if you’re a bot or not.

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Firefox here I come

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