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I wonder if there’s anything they could be doing to reduce the deaths of their young men who are of age to start building families (20-30 year olds)? It must be a total mystery if they’re resorting to using female prisoners as breeders. I guess we’ll never know.

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Jokes aside, what is going with these people minds? Lets send our people to die in wars and make women have more children? THE FUCK IS GOINGON?

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They don’t know what’s happening. They literally don’t. Why do you think the Russians had mobile crematoriums right at the start of the war?

Sorry, mam. Your son is missing. He went AWOL. He’s in Tahiti.

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A member of the Russian State Duma has proposed releasing women convicted of minor charges from prisons so they can conceive

Hey, maybe read the article first?

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After my Russian wife was browsing the internal news yesterday to see what level of information is provided over there she mentioned that their solution in the abortion debate is to have everyone give birth, and just give up the kids to be raised by the state if you don’t want them.

Also there seems to be a proposal to exclude women from higher education unless they’ve given birth.

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Wow, that’s wild. This will likely lead to women claiming/diagnosed to be infertile needing to have sex with the principal to enter higher schools.

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Also there seems to be a proposal to exclude women from higher education unless they’ve given birth.

Being forced to give birth to a child is very effectively excluding you from higher education(at least if you take care of it).

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lso there seems to be a proposal to exclude women from higher education unless they’ve given birth.

Would they not be required for the skilled workforce?

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my Russian wife was browsing the internal news yesterday to see what level of information is provided over there

How do you do that? Or is your wife one of those “Russian brides” that you pay but they never actually come to you?

(I’m just joking… I hope… I am actually curious how to read internal Russian news. I have a couple VPS in Moscow.)

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I am actually curious how to read internal Russian news.

Internet?

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I’m pretty sure that’s the current step. Free range, but still.

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JFC all the guy said is that people convicted of minor charges should be released, and if they’re released they’ll have babies because they’re, y’know, not in prison.

How much of a hard on does Lemmy have for keeping prison populations high?

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These fears over population collapse are the weirdest form of mass hysteria I’ve ever seen.

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Not an expert on this at all but I feel like it’s less of “the human race is going to die out” vs the owner class needs cheap labor and bodies for war to continue infinite growth.

My running theory is in the United States, Republican’s obsession with abortion is tied to the fact they need poor and broken families to pump out kids for future cheap labor and the prison industrial complex to make a nation function moving forward. That and the gray sunami of a upside down pyramid with not enough young to take care of the older generations (I think Japan and China are experiencing this currently).

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Well in Russia it’s about replacing all the kids and men dying in Ukraine. The Russian losses are staggering and Russia is basically throwing their people into a meat grinder.

If only a fraction of a percent are coming home “after the war” Russia is in big big trouble regardless of population growth or shrinkage due to other causes.

In the USA I’d agree it’s about cheap labor. They don’t want to let the Mexicans in too so gotta keep those white babies flowing.

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Russia was facing demographic collapse before it invaded Ukraine. The war has only worsened its outlook.

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Russia has like 500 million people, they could send 499 million to their deaths and they would be fiiiiiine.

Most of their economy is oil and gas extraction which doesn’t require a very large labor force. They can just outsource exploration to Europeans corporations anyway.

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Are you a hammer? Because I think you just nailed it.

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Politicians have straight up said it’s a reason they are against abortion…

The data follows: https://www.epi.org/publication/economics-of-abortion-bans/

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Politicians have straight up said it’s a reason they are against abortion…

But we agree it’s only safe abortions they’re blocking, right?

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In germany the sheinking population or rather the aging population is causint serious issues for the pension system. The current working population is paying the pensions for the current pensioners. So what happens is fewer and fewer people pay for more and more people, leading to my generation not being able to get state pension, instead needing to get private plans

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Yeah that’s the real issue. Instead of fixing that they just try to make more people lol so lazy. There are no real leaders anymore

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A bit embarrassing to admit this but the first time I was in Germany I was mildly shocked by the number of non-ethnic Germans I saw speaking German. Yes I am aware that immigration has increased there.

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The US has an easy way out of the demographic trap through immigration. Countries like China and Japan don’t have that because no one wants to immigrate to China and Japan basically doesn’t allow it at all.

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That requires long term planning that I doubt they are capable of or willing to engage in. It takes a minimum of 16 years to go from conception to worker in the developed world. In practice over 20 if you want them to be able to make real money for you.

Who plans for 16 years ahead? No one. The horizon is way too long. No one is going to lobby a politician today for an investment that might pay off that far in the future. You could get about 7% return on an index fund this year alone and instead you want to try for the slim possibility that you can pay a worker less in 16 freaken years? Companies usually won’t go beyond even a 5 year investment, 8 if they are a utility. This would be an investment that is literally over twice as risky as a nuclear power plant.

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It isn’t an existential problem, but it’s still a very big problem, not just for the upper class, but for everyone.

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No, it’s not, you’re a gullible tool.

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It’s a problem for everyone because the societal changes that would adjust for a population decline and inverted population pyramid aren’t favored by the upper class.

We’d need to invest in doctors and nursing staff properly, something a ton of places are struggling with. We’d need to make the job more appealing by both increasing pay substantially and improving conditions. We need to get rid of student debt overall, but definitely for medical professionals that care for the elderly.

We also need to decrease inequality and use redistributed wealth to fund the retirements of younger generations, but that’s more complicated and the more uphill battle.

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Not from the perspective of someone whose only strength in the war in Ukraine is the number of people.

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Most of the time, yes. When you’re throwing a large portion of your population into a blender, it makes more sense.

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Population collapse for the human race isn’t so much a problem, we’ll weather through it as a species. For an economy, population decline is very not good though. You need working age people to support the young and old, as well as everything else your taxes go to.

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The issue is that demographic collapse can and almost certainly will have devastating economic consequences for the countries facing it.

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Rape will become a patriotic duty

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Pretty sure it’s already considered one if you’re in the Russian army in Ukraine.

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 A member of the Russian State Duma has proposed releasing women convicted of minor charges from prisons so they can conceive

Did anyone even read the article?

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Of course not!

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Considering that domestic abuse is legalized in Russia it already is

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Shithole country

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Did you mean Russia, because the Republicans in the US seem to be marching to the very same tune?

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They have the same boss.

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Let’s play Russian Bot or Brainwashed Citizen

Mode: Lemmy (10/10 Difficulty)

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Is this a troll comment? Republicans literally have a history of attacking womens bodily autonomy. This isn’t a secret.

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Actually came in here to comment that GOP Disneyland (AKA Russia) is apparently going straight down the tubes.

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