But they still wonβt be able to remove all of the baked-in spyware.
Tried Debian stable, kept not being able to get stuff to work because of the packages always being too old. Not advocating for Ubuntu either, but Debian? For a desktop? GTFO! Iβd sooner start using emacs instead of vim.
I wanted to, and did manage to figure the installer out once, but damn itβs user unfriendlyβ¦ The os seems fine, installer was not. I had some other issues I was hoping would be fixed in Debian that werenβt, so unfortunately I did not stick with it
Does debian even exist? Iβve never seen itβ¦ Iβve used a dozen flavors of βdebianβ Linux professionally, as well as the headwear related branches and centosβ¦ Most recently Iβve gotten into nixos (I tried a half dozen distros, none of the βNvidia friendlyβ distros would work with my graphics card outside safe mode, even after debugging and official docs listing it as compatible with Ubuntuβ¦ Five lines in the nix config, will nix again)
All this time, Iβve seen countless mentions of this mythical debianβ¦ at this point Iβm pretty sure itβs just a meme, like Australia. I get Australia, someone mispronounced Austria and made up this wild story of a land full of deer who hop on two legs and kickbox (hilarious), but I donβt get the joke with debian. Is it just supposed to be the mythical Linux that works on any hardware configuration?
Snaps, I think Iβll pass.
Even without them, I donβt have time to uninstall/remove everything I donβt need.
DIY distros suit my needs more, but thanks anyway.
I understand that this is a meme, but dismissing one of the best distro family because snaps are included is dumb. It is easy to uninstall snap entirely.
The only serious bummer is that the Firefox deb-package is now fake and only installs the snap version of Firefox. Go get Librewolf, which is basically a hardened Firefox, and use their repository.
It is fun to meme around when it is with people that are familiar with Linux. But some Windows/MacOS users who are interested in Linux might take you seriously. Ubuntu and Ubuntu-like distros are really good in terms of ease of use, support and compatibility. My first recommendation for a new Linux user is Ubuntu or variations thereof.
You can try linux mint debian edition
Shouldnβt the same be applied to MacOS? There are a myriad of stupid apps impossible to uninstall. Maybe even safari
While you canβt uninstall Safari, it doesnβt constantly discourage you to use other browsers like Edge does. Nor does Mac OS prevents you from installing competing apps.
The bigger problem is iOS, but the EU already took care of that and weβll be able to sideload apps on iOS pretty soon.
Does Mac prohibit other browser engines like they do on iOS?
Doesnβt do a lot of good, that they let you use other browsers if they are just reskins for Safari.
I remember Mac os ignoring my default browser choice many times and instead launching a web page in safari.
App association is done at the OS level, and the apps are normally responsible for that. So it could be either the OS not registering the selected browser properly or the other browser not registering itself correctly as the default browser.
They need to basically register themselves as responsible for html files and a bunch of protocols (http, https, etc). Iβve never had a problem like that, and Iβve been using macs for almost 30 years (Iβve used many different browsers as default in the past).
But browsers are pretty complicated beasts, so I believe you. There are a lot of things that can go wrong and your choice may not end up being respected.
Mac literally doesnβt allow any other browser engine. They only allow webkit.
So your options are:
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Safari
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Safari with Chrome aesthetics
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Safari with Firefox aesthetics
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Safari with [insert browser here] aesthetics
No, youβre confusing MacOS with iOS. Mac allows whatever you want. Each browser has its own rendering engine. iOS is the one that only allows (for the moment) Webkit. But thatβs going to change (at least in Europe). Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_browser_engines#Support
Older MacOS versions had stuff like the chess game preinstalled for no reason, though I donβt know how current versions look like.
I also donβt know how easy it is to remove preinstalled apps nowadays. Back in the day, you could disable System Integrity Protection, remove whatever you want, and re-enable Protection afterwards.
Time for Ubuntu to ship with a mandatory Edge installation
Itβs a little naive to think that this was an incentive to use Linux for ppl in the first place.
Edge isnβt as bad nowadays, and itβs not much more of a spyware than Google Chrome, the meme browser.
Which still is pretty bad. Honestly we should avoid chromium.
But as far as chromium is concerned, yeah Edge is pretty good. I used it until the anti adblock shenanigans
Same here, switched to FF for almost a year now beside AdBlock Edge is far better than Chrome
