• Firefox offers better privacy and security than Chrome, with upcoming support for 200 new add-ons. • While Chrome dominates, Firefox gains ground with user-friendly browsing experience and open-source model. • Mozilla’s focus on user privacy and transparency challenges Google’s ad-centric approach, making Firefox a viable alternative.

240 points

I’d like to formally apologize. I should have never left.

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It’s cool just come back and bring a friend with you.

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Same here. I left for about 10 years but started coming back gradually a few years ago. After everything that happened this year, I made the full switch to Mozilla on all my devices. I’m very happy to be back though!

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Same, I deeply regret leaving. Mostly happened due to peer pressure in uni, where everybody was thinking google is cool, and you had to use a lot of google products for classwork. Now google has their tentacles attached all over my online life, and switching feels like preparing for a divorce. Though at least I’m not using Android anymore

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you could’ve just degoogled your phone, if it’s comatible with any custom ROMs. android itself is open source, but the preinstalled apps and services are not. that’s where the spyware is. (we will never even know how much spyware is embedded in IOS, because it’s closed source)

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No expert at all, but isn’t it the case that the phone is then somewhat marked as not trustworthy, making it impossible to use banking apps and such?

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10 points

Why is it such a big deal? I don’t regret anything. Back in the days when Google was a cool company and Chrome appeared, it totally made sense to use Chrome. After they gradually started to get more and more hostile, I switched to Firefox. It was just a matter of exporting and importing bookmarks and setting up some plugins. And changing the search engine.

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I tried chrome when it released. It was a neat curiosity, but I never found it to perform so much better than Firefox that I needed to switch.

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You are forgiven. It’s an adventure.

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3 points

i feel like firefox used to suck

or did chrome used to not suck so much?

or was i a sucker for bandwagon and marketing

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When Chrome came out it was fairly light on resource usage and speedy because of that. Firefox was a resource hog at this time. Chrome now is a show resource hog and Firefox is much peppier overall in my opinion.

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26 points

Don’t forget about the Firefox forks like LibreWolf!

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and waterfox!

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+1 for Waterfox

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4 points

Waterfox Elevator pitch?

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5 points

and mullvad browser!

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and “bolexforsoup already said mullvad an hour ago” browser!

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I think you mean mull not mullvad :) Mullvad does not have a browser, the privacy hardened Firefox mobile fork available on F-Droid is actually called Mull and is not related to Mullvad in any way. It confused me too at first.

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This is the first I’m seeing it, and it looks interesting. I’m always up to try a new browser. And it works on Linux too. If the language can be toggled to English I’ll definitely try it.

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2 points

Their website is in Japanese but everything in the browser itself was English by default when I started using it!

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85 points

Tree. Style. Tabs.

Best damned extension ever. It’s amazing to me that all browsers don’t have this style of tabs.

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Right?

The ability to drag them into specific trees to keep them organized, and the also Tab Renamer so the top tab is named sensibly and you can find other tabs

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Most of my immediate team have switched to vertical tabs. It’s frustrating seeing someone with a couple hundred horizontal tabs trying to figure where that important page was.

Edge does vertical tabs, but no nesting. Even that frees up a good amount of screen space.

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It does one level of nesting with tab groups. Just drag one tab onto another to start.

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internet explorer has a similar feature where tab background colors were different for each tree, though it doesn’t have the tree view :p

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27 points

Thanks for the recommendation. I need to organize my 100+ tabs.

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Tree Style Tab also lets you bookmark whole trees. I’m often jumping between different coding languages, or different areas of DevOps on a weekly basis, and tree bookmarks help. I can “file away” a bunch of research and load it all back later, and still have the tree! Very useful for context switching.

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13 points

Have you tried tab session manager? I was planning on testing it to check if it provides additional value…

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Tree style tabs on it’s own just sounds like it would be enabling my tab-hoarding tendencies. But bookmarking entire trees of tabs is too good to pass up.

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Though loading the saved tree do only from sidebar (ctrl+b). Loading from bookmarks window is bugged, undoes trees upon loading.

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Use Vimium add-on and have a pop-up to search your open tab.

Or if you prefer no add-ons or don’t know how to use Vim keybindings then type your search query in the search bar like this:

% my tab title
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It’s this on Firefox Android?

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Unfortunately no, but honestly I can’t imagine how it would work on such small and horizontal vertical screen. Though I love that I can run uBO, Privacy Badger, TamperMonkey and CleanURLs.

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I mostly just want a tab grouping system like android chrome had.

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I can’t imagine how it would work on such small and horizontal screen.

The pages window but with draggable, treeable, tabs/pages.

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6 points

Pretty sure, the whole sidebar concept doesn’t exist on Firefox Android, so very likely no…

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4 points

Combine that with their multi-account containers and you got yourself a stew, honey!

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3 points

I wish it was the default (or at least a built in option). It’s a bit annoying to still have to use workarounds to remove the default tab bar.

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I’m not a fan of hoarding tabs, so with them being short lived I don’t see benefits in having a tree. But I do use sidebery + custom userChrome.css to have exclusively vertical tabs, which save quite some space when collapsed.

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If you work from home and you have go through a bunch of web resources, it’s really nice. Most of the time you’re opening new tabs, instead of being in the same tab. That way you still have the old web page for reference.

Specifically any job over the phone, it’s almost mandatory. I love closing all the tabs at the end of the call, though.

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Don’t get me wrong, I work mostly from home and open thousands of tabs every day. But most don’t last longer than a few minutes, and if the flat hierarchy is not able to handle them, that’s a sign they should be cleaned up.

On the other hand, trees encourage tab hoarding, which I personally loathe, but people have different preferences.

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You can still group better.

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Just wanna jump in here an md mention sideberry as an alternativ, does the same thing, but better imo and has tons of customisation options

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I could never get used to tab managers like these IF the tabs are still shown in the top of Firefox.

Simple Tab Groups is something that I can get used to, because it works pretty similar as it does with Safari.

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There’s CSS you can apply that hide the tabs, but it’s not a straightforward process to apply it.

I wonder if I could script it? Hmm. (I’ve written a developer environment setup script at work that I could add that to…)

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12 points

How is it for mobile though? All of my web interaction is through my android

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I’ve used it very briefly and had no problems.

Honestly, the differences between browsers performance is almost nothing. I’ve been a long time Firefox user and only ever encountered a compatibility issue once, but that was on a 3rd world countries government webpage for a small neighborhood.

It was more likely that it was a bug.

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ive switched to firefox for desktop windows for about 1 year now. Firefox is really capable and as swift as chrome. You also get a sense of less intrusiveness. Firefox also has the multi containers widget, though for me it breaks down after a while. The big difference now between firefox and chrome are things like automatic subtitles for anything running in chrome. So if a youtube or other video has no english subs, Chrome can do it. And soon, Chrome i going to go AI too. I’m not sure how firefox will survive that onslaught. I suspect mozilla will have a firefox fork partnering with a major competitor of google (eg: MS).

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I’ll admit that those features are useful, but it’s not enough for me to switch to chrome and give Google more control over the web.

It’s like giving up the house to play with some toys.

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Some websites are much worse than others. https://astro.build/ as an example. Try scrolling up and down on that website on Firefox vs Chrome (mobile).

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The only difference I see is that Firefox allows me to scroll faster. What am I supposed to see?

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12 points

This article is actually specifically about mobile! Yes it’s great. :)

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32 points

UBlock Origin mobile. Enough said.

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UBlock Origin mobile.

uBlock Origin mobile with the EasyList annoyance cookie notices filter enabled. Never see an annoying cookie notice again.

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Excellent? It allows ublock origin so tjatsbautomaitxlsly a boost for performance.

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tjatsbautomaitxlsly

I don’t know what’s more impressive, that terrible auto correct or that I can actually tell what you were going for there (hurray for context clues)

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Autocorrect had no hand in that I’m afraid. That mess is all me. My keyboard usually handles that kind of thing pretty well. Multiple words even

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FF is great for mobile with the exception of PWAs. They abandoned support for web apps - they work but performance is terrible. It’s a massively requested feature so hopefully they’ll add support soon. I use a chromium browser (Vanadium) for web apps but have links open in FF.

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I like Firefox on Android, but my chief complaint is strange scrolling behavior and refresh rate issues.

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It doesn’t accurately recognize tap on input gestures on Android. It’s super frustrating to paste text. Chrome has no problem here 😞

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image.unrelated

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That’s just us with our super fun kbin shenans! It’s a Firefox logo everywhere else.

Edit: It’s a pic of some food for us on kbin.

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@RiikkaTheIcePrincess how’d ya do that

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