35 points

1hr 45mins?!

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It’s a podcast. Most people listen to it while doing other things and don’t watch it in a single sitting.

If you don’t want to watch it, then don’t, but it really is a great podcast.

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Damn, Sweet Brown. Ain’t seen her in forever!

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It’s hard to find estimates of android devices, but most reports I found indicate around 3 billion, and this makes us around 0,05%. I expected it to be low, but not like that…

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Billion or million? :P

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But how much of that is phones? There’s a lot of other devices running Android.

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Good point. I found no data making that distinction, so we can’t really know.

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See the calculator some guy made run doom or a barcode scanner at my job.

Android is a fairly good target development platform, it’s still getting updates, apps built for older versions of android still work on newer versions, large active tallent pool both perfessionally and hobbyist, absolute metric fuck ton of tutorials. Yeah, if you’re making a new product it isn’t hard to just make it an android computer and throw am app on there that you make that does the thing.

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4 points

I recently used a Holter monitor that was an Android phone.

I’ve seen many, many handheld devices in retail environments that are clearly Android based.

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28 points

I used LineageOS before switching to GrapheneOS

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Why did you switch?

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  1. Quarantined google play services on an alternate profile was a big sell for me. I don’t use anything google related in my day to day but occasionally I need traffic updates or alternative routes and I’m forced to use google maps. There’s a few other exceptions where I very rarely will need to use google play services.

In those situations, I can boot to an alternate profile for each app I need to use, and I know google is unable to harvest the majority of my data.

  1. GrapheneOS has hardened security compared to lineageOS.

  2. LineageOS did some type of takeover on cyanogenmod and I forget the details but I remember the whole situation left a sour taste in my mouth.

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They forked it when it was announced they were going to shut it down. Not sure what the issue with that is.

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Considering the lead developer of GrapheneOS bans anyone from their chat for asking how an Android phone with GrapheneOS compares to a non-android phone, such as a PinePhone or Librem 5, in terms of security, because, according to said developer, PhonePhone and Librem5 are “scam products” and even asking questions about them is “spreading misinformation” and “promotion of fraud”, I’d be quite, quite vary of the claims GrapheneOS developers make about its security.

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LineageOS did some type of takeover on cyanogenmod and I forget the details but I remember the whole situation left a sour taste in my mouth.

CyanogenMod was the one that went commercial and was shut down. LineageOS is the continuation of the original vision. Kinda like OpenOffice vs LibreOffice.

In 2013, the founder, Stefanie Jane,[11][12] obtained venture funding under the name Cyanogen Inc. to allow commercialization of the project.[1][13] However, the company did not, in her view, capitalize on the project’s success, and in 2016 she left or was forced out[14] as part of a corporate restructure, which involved a change of CEO, closure of offices and projects, and cessation of services,[15][16] and therefore left uncertainty over the future of the company. The code itself, being open source, was later forked, and its development continues as a community project under the LineageOS name.

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I’m the opposite. I was running graphineos until the device ran out of the support window, and then it became lineage os.

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Does this include devices running unofficial ports of lineageOS?

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Represent

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Lineage OS is really great, I recommend the forked version with MicroG bundled to use google apps.

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Or, just skip that step altogether

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If you aren’t sure if you can fully degoogle then it a great offer. Unfortunately many apps depend on GSF so its understandable.

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Depends on how pure you want to be. If you are a purest, that is a bad thing to do.

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Well yes you are right, but being completely pure is borderline impossible IMO, and most people transition slowly.

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True. I have been using Lineage with no gapps package for a bit over 4 years now. I no longer even have a google account as of almost 2 years ago.

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Is it equal to a regular android? Will the usual banking apps work on it, for example?

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No. Banking won’t work and you can’t lock bootloader. As far as I know there’s no Recovery password so someone could just adb and pull data. If you want to use banking apps you could use magisk to pass safety net but that will make your phone less secure. Personally I have no banking app so I don’t give a shit

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Banking apps work for me. And you cant pull data over adb without the password. The data is encrypted by default since a few Android versions

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It really depends on the banking app.

And you can always use a browser - Hermit enables you to use a web page that looks much like an app.

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I think you can configure that some apps can be only accessed by root user while not giving root permissions to a pc usb debugging

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They work in the browser;)

For now

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1 point

With the right Magisk modules I got my banking apps working

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1 point

Nowadays with SafetyNet hardware checks it’s a dangerous game to rely on that.

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The Sparkasse (german bank) app works perfectly fine. I use LineageOS with microG and I’m not logged in with a Google account or anything.

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I want to move away from GSF, how is MicroG working nowadays? I used it some years ago but it was buggy with any app related to mapping, and some other quirks.

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It works perfectly in my case can’t say for others. You should check their issues page in github about your device.

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Works perfectly fine for me. I’ve also used an app that used Google Maps in it and it worked perfectly fine. Instead of Google Maps it displayed the map on OpenStreetMap.

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