Just read that lemmy.ml just did. What’s our status on this?
The admin of lemmy.world, @ruud@lemmy.world has voiced on Mastodon.world that we are not going to defederate from Threads just yet. He wants to “wait and see”, which of course offers mixed feelings from folks.
It’s worth noting that Individuals can block a domain if they see fit.
So if your server admin is not willing to defederate from threads.net, you can do it yourself for your account.
Thank God, I was starting to miss drama since getting off of Reddit
Good news is that if lemmy.world doesn’t choose to defed Threads, all you have to do is migrate to another instance which does! One of the better benefits of this over Reddit.
ml is the Tankies instance. So I’d personally avoid that one. I’ll keep an eye on lemm.ee though.
I thought lemmygrad.ml was the tankies.
Is Lemm.ee performant now? I used it for a bit and it was borderline unusable because it was so slow and overloaded.
Admins preemptively defederating Threads has a very middle school feel to it.
I don’t think this is just to spite Meta, they’re known for tracking everything under the sun and there are serious security concerns about what info they may acquire if you unwittingly interact with a post on Threads from another server.
Maybe a stupid question, but I’m a noob so bear with me.
I mean…can’t they already scrub our comments and gain information from them? It’s not as if places like lemmy.world are at all private. They are publicly viewable to anyone…you don’t even need an account.
I’m no cybersecurity expert but there is definitely more info involved with posting to Threads. I might be able to get a little info on you from looking at your comment but I can’t tell things like your IP address. If you commented to my server though I absolutely could.
To some degree I’m less concerned with them tracking/gathering info and more with their lax moderation allowing for all manner of hateful content to spread. Imo they’re not that far removed from instances like exploding heads or the like.
They’re the same folks that have enabled the spread of genocidal rhetoric, attempts to subvert democracy (not only via Facebook but through WhatsApp use as well (and not just in the United States, see also Brazil)), and probably more I’m not thinking of.
Has anyone seen any posts from them? Do they ruining our federation or violating server rules yet? We can defederate them anytime if they would start spamming or being rude to our community members.
that’s not the main concern, EEE is the main concern (Embrace, Extend, Extinguish). We’ve seen it with XMPP and I’m afraid history is about to repeat itself if we don’t do anything about it.
No one EEE’d XMPP. XMPP still exists and is in use today. It is an IETF standard now if I remember correctly. Commonly integrated into SIP packages. And is used quietly as the back end for many small IM systems and that we will probably never be specifically told about. I personally use it regularly to communicate with people who have never heard of it.
What happened is that a lot of people wasted a lot of time and resources trying to get Google to play along with them. Rather than just developing their software the way they wanted to. The fact of the matter is. No IM system from that time is still in widespread used today. MSN messenger is basically gone. The same with ICQ. AOL instant messenger? Nobody uses it. Even Skype today is struggling and rarely brought up.
And if you think socialists of any stripe let alone the ML variety are going to change their plans to fawn over a corporation, you don’t understand socialists. And let’s be clear here. As a general rule, anyone that uses threads will likely never use Lemmy. And vice versa. Lemmy is safe.
To further illustrate my point. No one has EEEd email, useNet, http, Java, Linux or any other similar system. And they have tried very hard.
