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Latin and Greek are nowhere even similar to each other. You might as well say that Latin and German are the same language. Greek and Latin are 2 different linguistic branches of indoeuropean languages. Latin is the precursor of romance languages like Italian, French and Spanish. Ancient Greek is the precursor of Greek. Other major European language branches are the Germanic(German, English, Swedish, etc) and slavic(Russian, Polish, Bulgarian, etc).

Cool single indoeuropean individual language branches also include Armenian, Celtic and Albanian.

Finnish and Hungarian arent indoeuropean languages.

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Greek is nothing like Latin.

Greek is my first language and Ive (tried to) read Latin, unsuccessfully, meaning no words maake sense to me when I view them from the perspective of “this word could have this greek word as a root”

Edit: This should hopefully put a rest to this discussion

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Arent ancient and modern Greek pretty different though?

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Yes, but you can for the most part understand ancient greek if you know greek. Ancient greek and greek are similar enough for that. Greek and latin are not.

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Yeah, after about 1000 years even the exact same language normally will change so much that it’s not understandable to speakers on opposing sides of that divide. I can’t read much German, but in reality German and English are very related and with some explanation one can see it pretty clearly. I agree with your sentiment I think, but “nothing like” is pretty absolute.

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Immediately after uploading I see the mistake. I’m not changing it. I’m just trying to get through the day.

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It’s still all Greek to me

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No, they’re completely different, have absolutely nothing in common. Though, yes, the Roman Empire did steal a lot of the culture from Greece.

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have absolutely nothing in common.

They are both Indo-European languages and it shows. The words for father and mother for example, are very similar in the two languages.

I will never understand why people always want to deny the interconnected nature of the universe and instead want everything to be unrelated and separate

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The word for father and mother (especially mother) are similar in many European languages, Slavic included, which doesn’t mean the cultures share the same roots.

Though yes, I would agree that living on the same continent meant different cultures get to share a lot, inclding language, through trade or other means.

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The point being made though was that the languages are well shown to be genuinely related through a common ancestral language from which they both deviated, just as have most languages in Europe and parts of the Near East. The connection is tangible and quite real, not something just based on some few similarities.

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All I said is that they are related, because they very much are. Just read the Wikipedia page for either language if you’re interested, you’ll see that IE languages are all related.

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Father and mother are probably the two worst examples. Mother is “mamá” in Spanish, and “mama” in Japanese, not because they’re related, but because babies make that sound a lot.

That said, I agree with you completely. It’s just that that specific example bugged me.

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Mama is different than mater and pater both being very similar in several IE languages.

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“Mama” is not the common word you’d use in Japan, it’s a loanword from watching English/European media. Normally they’d use “Haha”. At least as my neighbor once explained to me.

In Chinese, though, we use “maa maa”, which does sound more similar.

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I used to type up long explanations but I don’t do it anymore. Either the person is not going to be uninterested and/or unconvinced, or they’ll read up more on it on their own

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Read my other comments for a more detailed explanation, but the tl;dr of the matter is that while they are both Indo-European languages, each is from a vastly different branch family of the Indo-European language family. The Hellenic and Romance branch families for Greek and Latin respectively.

Technically they are related, but technically if you go far back enough I am related to you too, however any sensible person would never make the claim that you and I are related simply because we share a common ancestor somewhere along our history.

Edit: my other comments also have sources, but I don’t want to repeat myself once more, so I wont put them here as well. :)

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Technically they are related

“Technically”… I was simply trying to state that the absolutes being used here are wrong. They are. I am not interested at the moment in splitting hairs, that was never what I was trying to discuss. I happen to think it’s interesting to see how things are related. I think I’d love studying linguistics if it weren’t for your type being so prevalent. The type of person who will say “this has absolutely nothing to do with that” as if the only valuable perspective is to split and divide, and that taking a glimpse at the unknowable mysteries-- of exactly how historical changes played out-- is stupidity that should be stomped on.

It’s 100% true that there is a relationship and telling people there isn’t serves only to make you feel smart. I made no false assertions whatsoever so stop acting like I’m spreading dangerous lies.

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I mean they are fairly similar. They share a lot of vocabulary, their nouns have corresponding declensions, verb conjucations are similar, there are a lot of other similar grammar constructions, and the Latin alphabet is mostly derived from the Greek alphabet, too.

Edit: Classical Greek and Classical Latin, at least. Modern Greek and Romance languages like Italian are further diverged from those ancestor languages to the point that they are difficult for modern speakers to even parse.

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Replace “language” with “mythology” and this works

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