5 points

Shame shame shame (Kidding ofc)

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I don’t understand the hate for charging for a product. I pay for a Mastodon client. If a Lemmy client that I really liked cost money and I felt the price was reasonable, I’d support that developer, too.

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It’s not the charge money part. It’s that it charges money and then still grabs and sells toms of your data. That’s something the Lemmy crowd is super opposed to even in free products, but a subscription to have your data sold when the service itself (Lemmy) is hosted on a donation basis and does not cost the devs a cent to use is too much.

Most of that opposition is directed at the Sync devs of course, not against some user who has made the decision that the proposal is good and decided to use Sync.

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33 points

It literally doesn’t do that. If you pay for it, the ad code doesn’t even initialize, thus performing no tracking. And crash analytics are optional.

At least, if we trust Laurence. I wish it was open source so we could verify, but I choose to trust him.

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Hey, you do you. I’m weirded out that the app makes you accept all that stuff and is only one commented line away from collecting your stuff. But I’m not here to lecture others. If you enjoy the app and think it’s money well spent, I wish that you get out of it what you hope for and that’s enough for me.

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Nothing wrong at all with charging for the main version to support development as long as it’s not gouging. I don’t think this is gouging in the slightest.

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I don’t think price gouging is even possible unless you control most or all of whatever resource. Sync is one of many apps to access Lemmy, and it isn’t forcing anyone to pay or even use it.

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I agree. This situation is a bit different, but my point was the general idea of price gouging of a product.

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I would happily pay for any FOSS app that I use, even for higher price than proprietary ones. I personally would prefer to use a FOSS app, if the UX is somewhat on par with the proprietary ones.

That being said, no judgement to people who prefer proprietary app. We all have different priorities, hence have to make different tradeoffs.

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30 points

I would pay for a good native iOS App. Memmy is nice but apps using web frameworks always have more limitations than any native one.

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6 points

Try Mlem, it’s native iOS. It’s a work in progress but the user experience is great and the beta and active development seem promising.

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19 points

Mlem is SwiftUI and FOSS! I know there are some issues with the current App Store build (weeps in janky scrolling) but we’ve got a major update hitting beta tomorrow and the App Store as soon as Apple will allow that’s going to fix it.

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Looking forward to trying out the updated build!

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WOW! i did try out mlem in its early days, but since i browse lemmy mainly on ipad, it wasn’t for me so i moved to memmy

Just checked back on it and now the iPad experience is miles better than memmy. Guess i’m coming back to mlem

Great work guys! Looking forward to tomorrow’s testflight

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My only gripe that makes me stay with Mlem is lack of any method of saving/sharing just the photo of a post.

EDIT: I meant Mlem, not Memmy.

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Try Avelon: https://testflight.apple.com/join/IzB0ZiBO

This and Mlem are my favorites.

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4 points

I agree. I paid for a better Apollo experience back in the day, and the developer well deserved it.

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21 points

A lot of Lemmy consists of FOSS enthusiasts, so something that’s paid and proprietary wouldn’t look as good in their eyes.

There’s also the fact that the free version of Sync uses (Google?) ad tracking to show you ads, so those people would also be upset.

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Lemmy instances run on servers which are funded by donations. I don’t see how Sync (which is made by one developer) gets to be frowned upon because there’s a price for ad removal. All FOSS projects are somehow funded, usually by donations. Nothing runs for free.

If we get to use all the FOSS Lemmy apps is because someone put in the time and money to make it happen.

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3 points

I still get put on blast on mastodon when I tell someone I use Ivory. Why the hell do they care?

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I don’t understand the hate for charging for a product

I think the hate is mainly for the $100 lifetime payment. That’s a lot for some people.

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12 points

$100 is lifetime Ultra, which is subscription otherwise. It’s $20 for lifetime removal of ads.

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Yea I’m aware, I can read.

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Yep, before regionalizing prices Lj was charging about 450 bucks in local currency. Minimum wage is about 1200.

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3 points

To build on what other people are saying, the $100 also is supposed to cover the cost of running servers and networks that the app has to use for the more unique, advanced features. Those are all things that will cost the developer to keep up and running - it’s honestly nice that you even have the option to pay for lifetime since, once you’ve used the app for six years, the dev is going to start losing money off of your using the app.

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7 points

Many of us happily pay add removal fees on apps, but few of us pay $20. It stands out as excessive, especially in a very competitive arena like Lemmy apps where lots of good options have emerged.

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1 point

Many Americans (I’m one) cling to a variety of purity tests, and they struggle to grasp the bigger picture which could result in better outcomes for everyone.

Black or white. Win or lose. It’s a tiring cultural characteristic.

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4 points

Oh yeah? What Mastodon client? I’ve just been using the 1st party client and I feel like it’s pretty decent. Kinda curious how much better a client might be.

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4 points

Woolly is my client of choice. I used Ivory, too, but I really took to Woolly.

Mammoth is a great free alternative but lacks some of the polish (and has a horrible app icon lol)

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1 point

Thanks!

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98 points

A Sync user loves Lemmy enough to pay for it and isn’t wrapped up in drama spun by FOSS advocates. Be proud.

That being said, I love FOSS.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software?wprov=sfla1

Had to look it up

Almost thought it was an app 🤣

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44 points

I’m over here bouncing between Memmy and Voyager solely because I miss Apollo.

It’s amazing how much an interface matters thought I enjoyed Reddit when really I enjoyed Apollo.

My point is, I don’t know what Sync is but if it’s what you like then hell yeah use the shit out of it.

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Sync was a great app for Reddit. I used it as my main for a while before I got my first iPhone. I honestly don’t understand all the hate for it here. There are several FOSS choices for Lemmy apps if anyone doesn’t like it.

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8 points

Sync was Apollo but on Android.

Not precisely, they weren’t 1-for-1 clones. But when I moved from Android to iOS I was easily able to adapt to Apollo from Sync. Very similar visuals, very similar gestures, similar developer devotion.

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Sync was not only my favorite app for reddit, but IMO the best UI/UX of any app I’ve ever used. I enjoyed Connect until Sync came out, but now that it has I feel like I can finally enjoy Lemmy as much as reddit. Everyone will have their preferences and prices they’re willing to pay, but $20 absolutely seems reasonable to me for how much I use it lol.

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That is exactly how I felt about Apollo and the apps I mentioned earlier are absolutely allowing me to enjoy Lemmy.

I absolutely did not understand how to consume Lemmy before. But now… now I do.

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2 points

Memmy is so fucking good.

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