As per title, Help me choose a browser for android I have non rooted device. After all the researches I found best for me would be 1: Mull but with Some way for knowing which site have saved any data on my device (Maybe by extension or some defined page like about:config type) But as per my research I do not found any such thing. 2:Cromite or like it but with extension support like kiwi. 3:Privacy browser but just give assurance that google will not track me (as I have nonrooted device I have default webview).

I dont think that Vivaldi,Opera or brave stand anywhere when it is about privacy.

Help/advice/correct me!

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Why not using Firefox, Firefox Focus or Brave?

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Because Mull is hardened Firefox without telemetry. Brave is Chromium based and the company is shady.

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U did not readed it well. As firefox on android do not have sandboxing and segregation things It cant give individual websites permissions like js cookie etc. Firefox due to same reason cannot tell about WHICH SITE IS SAVING WHAT DATA ON MY DEVICE.I need to know that info so I am asking for any solution but as per what I know there are no solutions

Sorry for poor english

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This makes no sense. Firefox with noscript and “forgetmenot” can selectively allow Javascript per domain, and to save cookies.

This cookie quick manager is probably an extension you want.

https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/collections/17446767/Fenix-Addons/

This is a custom addon collection, I will add cookie quick manager if its missing

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Thanks this is exact thing I was looking for. A bit more explanation

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I tried some addons and probably cookie is not only form of data. As I was loggined on piped.video but there were no cookie showing in quick cookie manager I also used cookie auto delete and piped data was not deleted. I dont have technical details but in an addon (Name was probably something like forget forever) which claim to delete all site data. There were about 10 types of data listed including cookie,IndexDb,Session storage etc. That extension was also not able to remove that data (Was showing not available on your platform).

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Btw Xbrowser sync will function same as brave sync? Anonymous!

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cant give individual websites permissions like js cookie etc.

Don’t you think there is a reason why none of browsers provide this feature? Do you seriously want to open a website and be greeted with 30 pop ups asking “do you want to allow javascript on api.example.com website?”. Then instantly “do you want to allow loading static images/media on api.example.com website?”. Point is - it’s not how web works.

WHICH SITE IS SAVING WHAT DATA ON MY DEVICE

Imagine in your perfect world you get a pop up saying “Firefox has detected that example.com has saved 2 cookies on your device and they consume 43 bytes of your storage space. Do you want to delete them?”. Again, even if it saves cached data (static images) - why would you care? Firefox has addons that can help you to get rid of tracking cookies.

Please learn on how internet works. There is no such thing as “website”, especially in your context. Technically, your requested features could be possible to implement, but that would break like 100℅ of websites. And what you are probably looking for is something like Postman, but for Android. 🙆

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But all this is available in desktop Firefox. Partially built-in, partially via add-ons. The mobile version is very limited.

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Noscript does exactly that. Poorly there is no exception to allow x origin only on y domain. But yeah, its supported very well

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Don’t you think there is a reason why none of browsers provide this feature? Cromite does provide it I am writing this reply from it and only some website have js enabled like lemmy instance I use,masto etc. Rest open without it and if something breaks I change settings for it. But I dont hate js, its fine and I was just explaining how I want things to happen. *Firefox has detected that example.com has saved 2 cookies … * I was not saying that but as in chromium or in ff desktop u can check which site have saved what data in settings I just want something like that (Nobody wants that much interupping popups) that would break like 100℅ of websites. Chrome does it and everything works

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The uMatrix add-on for Firefox seems to do what you want.

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Thanks, will try

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Discontinued

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How? It’s not on F-Droid. Play store is obviously not an option for a person, who cares about privacy.

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Why not go directly to the source?

https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/releases

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Imagine you have lots of toys, like your favorite games and cool apps on your tablet or phone. If you had to update them manually, it’s like having to go to each toy, take it apart, fix anything that’s broken, and then put it back together every time there’s a new version or improvement.

Now, think about having a special toy store for your toys. When you go to the store, they already know about any new cool features or fixes for your toys. All you have to do is ask the store to update your toys, and they make sure all your toys get the latest and greatest stuff without you having to do anything.

So, having a store for apps is like having a magical place where all your toys can be fixed and improved automatically, without you having to do the hard work of updating each one by yourself. It saves you time and makes sure your toys are always the best they can be!

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Bromite

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Ya but sync?

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Not developed anymore and insecure!

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use cromite instead

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Fennec (Firefox based), with Ghostery and uBlock origin installed.

You’ll have to set add-ons up as a private collection for them to work, but it’s easy as pie.

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Mull works the same as Fennec, except it is hardended with patches from Tor and Arkenfox user.js. No real reason IMO to use fennec over Mull, whose developers also contribute to Fennec. Ghostery also changes your fingerprint, acting as one more data point. Mull has a whole bunch of configured flags to reduce fingerprinting, and many more to help with security (like disabling JIT).

Check here for some comparisons:

https://divestos.org/pages/browsers

https://privacytests.org

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Following the pro-Mull comments here I’ve given it a try for a solid 48h, and just reverted back to Fennec. Mull is simply restricting the user experience too much, and I’m not willing to make the sacrifice.

My biggest annoyances:

  1. Websites don’t get information about dark mode from my device and revert back to light mode by default.
  2. Websites don’t get information about the system time on my phone and deliver content based on GMT+0.
  3. Some websites get wrong (or none?) information about the screen resolution and are unusable.

I’m aware that those details are suppressed to avoid fingerprinting, and while I believe that the intention is good, it makes using my phone more cumbersome, and that’s not something I’m willing to do. So my choices at this point are basically to keep using Mull and deactivate the advanced fingerprinting protection, or use Fennec as before.

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Firefox resistant fingerprinting does the first 2 things, the last one is mobile partial letterboxing. All are anti fingerprinting techniques, but i understand how they may be restrictive. Maybe just add dark reader to have dark mode forced on websites, which technically can be fingerprinted but has a large userbase so idk.

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Hmm but On FF there are no way to see induvidual site data

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You can delete cookies and data on a per-site basis, and advanced tracking protection prevents any nefarious websites from exploiting your browser. That’s all I care for.

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In firefox android, I dont see any way to delete cookie+site data per site basis. Are u talking about chromium?

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Addons

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Hmm but I dont see anyone working the way I want. Can u explain which addon to use? And how to use them?

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Ghostery sends like every website you visit to their servers. Its opt-out and Ublock origin is better anyways. Firefox really has a problem of not marking bad addons

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Interesting, I’ll look deeper into that. They have an adblocking engine as well though and catch a few random ones uBlock doesn’t, so I’m not totally convinced they are fully redundant.

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You can add lists in ublock…

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Just setup links to open in private browsing mode, and clear cookies on browser exit.

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  • Mull is similar to Fennec except with some privacy tweaks. Generally Mull is better.

  • You don’t need Ghostery anymore

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try iceraven?

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But for what ? ellaborate pls!

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i could make out that you want :

about:config

mobile extensions

privacy focused

and iceraven is all 3

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In privacy i think mull is better than iceraven with its arkenfox.js and trackers removal. Extensions can be added to all these browsers by custom addon collection

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Don’t ask, test and answer for yourself. Do fingerprint and security checks and see what comes out best.

I use Brave and uBlock. It does better when tested than all the others, including Vanadium, which SHOULD be besting them all. Firefox has come in second but still can’t stop it from bring fingerprinted regardless of what I do to it, that includes its spinoffs. Brave passes them all with its default config.

https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/

There’s more in depth checks, but that easily covers the bases. If you’re being positively fingerprinted, the rest is a moot point.

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