Ethernet is Still Going Strong After 50 Years::The technology has become the standard LAN worldwide

132 points

The only bad thing about Ethernet cables is that they’re shaped like a goddamn grappling hook. If I wanna pull an Ethernet cable through my desk, I must understand that every other cable in its path is coming with it.

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132 points

always buy the more expensive ones with the foreskin.

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83 points

The foreskin gets in the way when pulling it out of the port though.

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39 points

Tell me about it.

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5 points

I’ve never had that problem 😉

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4 points

I always crimp my own, including using slide-on/slide-off hoods. That way I can back the hood off before plugging it into the port, which keeps it easy to disconnect, and I can slide it back on before pulling it through a tight spot.

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14 points

I’ve never heard it called foreskin, that’s pretty funny, but FYI, the proper term is “boot”. And I’m a big fan of no boots in the rack. They are nice for desks and places cables might be rearranged constantly, but in switches and backs of servers they just slow you down.

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11 points

Almost spit my coffee out god damn was not ready to read that 😂

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Not to be that person but ethernet is the specification, the “grappling hook” you are referring to is the connector (Rj45 8p8c). Ethernet has a ton of different connectors in the spec from SFP to DE-9 and even HDMI.

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17 points

Tape is your friend, it’s how I pull it through walls.

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13 points

VGA cables.

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Get VGA Today! Comes with double grappling action!

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Why not? I prefer a hard wired connection over wifi where possible any day. The speeds are more than adequate for 99.9% of needs, it’s pretty secure, what’s not to like?

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37 points

The speeds of wired ethernet are typically faster than wifi, and are consistantly more reliable.

I’ve worked in RF for my entire career, and I’ll always recommend a wired solution as the best option unless the use case requires the hardware to be moving arbitrarily.

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11 points

If it doesn’t move… it deserves a hard line. No point in spending precious wireless capacity on something that’s so well served by a cable.

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The amount of splitters I’d require and the cost of those splitters tends to be the thing that stops me from doing that

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18 points

Tell me how you didn’t read the article…

Wifi (802.11) is a type of ethernet. Ethernet is the communication specification not the medium.

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58 points

I’m really confused by the number of people here that are conflating Ethernet as a protocol and the physical medium it runs over. Coxial, fiber, and twisted pairs, can all carry different protocols. None of them are as ubiquitous in the home as Ethernet. Alternative network technologies are usually specific purpose, like fibre channel for storage, or infiniband for low latency, or 5G for wireless telecommunications.
It’s a very long lived protocol and it’s a testament to its lightweight and flexible nature. Ethernet really is a framework for higher level protocols where increasing change happens. IP addresses? Not Ethernet, that’s all Internet protocol. It’s more reminiscent of when electricity in the home was becoming common place. Before standardisation there was all kinds of chaos with different sockets, voltage, AC vs. DC etc. Although arguably that’s a less settled debate with suppliers and home users often preferring different standards.

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I just want to say that my home network is entirely ethernet, and I have a few fiber connections in there that are also ethernet.

The vast majority of the ethernet connections out there are done over category (5/5e/6/6a) cable, at least when it comes to end users, but that’s not the only thing that can transmit ethernet.

802.11 is extremely similar to ethernet, though, very notably, it is not ethernet. It is ethernet compatible, and mostly just adds things like encryption and source and endpoint radio identifiers… It more adds to ethernet than it changes anything. Bring so similar, the end to end ethernet connection is almost entirely unchanged when there is a wireless link in the chain…

It is, of course, different, as it has some different methods for handling issues, and other things, but ethernet is in there.

Fact is, ethernet is not your category cable, nor your 8p8c “rj45” cable connectors.

There are so many protocols and standards that work together to make networks function that many have not observed outside of the practical application of LAN networks. Thus all the terms get conflated together because the vast majority have not observed these things used in any other context.

Category cable is just a standard for twisted pair wiring. “Rj45” is actually a very specific connector and signaling that has nothing to do with LAN networks. Most of the wiring standards used are born from other purposes, and few know the history behind it.

Oh well. It’s not worth getting upset about it.

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12 points

I was having a discussion about this with a colleague at work about the so-called “HDMI over Ethernet” and how it’s a misnomer. As you said, Ethernet is a protocol, not a physical medium. I know a lot of people refer to the cable as “Ethernet cable” but the HDMI signal is being sent over CAT6 cables. There’s no encapsulation into Ethernet frames being done.

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Didn’t he say that it’s a framework for protocols, not a protocol? Or am I parsing the comment incorrectly?

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Eh, it’s both. Ethernet is layer 2. It is your MAC address, more or less. There’s some functionality to it beyond simple hardware addressing, but it provides a scaffold for other, higher layer protocols to operate on top of.

So ethernet, in and of itself is a protocol, and it also provides a framework for other protocols like IP.

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4 points

If I’m talking to a client and say, “All you gotta do is plug in the Ethernet and power to the NUC I sent you.”, they know what that means.

Vernacular vs. technical usage.

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It’s really cool how a lot of the tech that powers the Internet today has a looong legacy. The longevity is astounding!

I watched someone set up their own dial-up ISP on youtube, they were able to consume the modern net with it as well.

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31 points

Let’s also mention how cheap basic managed and unmanaged switches are today. I just bought a couple to improve my wiring situation.

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Even proper managed switches! Our clients, “I can’t find a free port to plug in the computer you sent.”

“Is it really worth losing your whole business for a day because you don’t have a $150 Dell from eBay?!”

And these particular businesses make all their money on one day of the week!

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3 points

Optical devices and cables have gone a lot cheaper. Only problem is they are significantly harder to splice and require specialist equipment.

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