16 points

Lol this group is like “doesn’t matter” all of a sudden.

Wish I had the energy to go back to the old threads and reply to all the “IDF is lying” comments.

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I guess you would have a point if Israel didn’t routinely bomb civilians and didn’t routinely lie about it.

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They don’t routinely lie about it. They pre-drop little fliers that say “we’re about to bomb here; if you don’t want to die you better leave” and then they come back in a couple of days or weeks and bomb. What on Earth would they lie about? “Wow, a bomb went off right where we dropped leaflets saying it would, but it definitely wasn’t us.”

The only bombing they actually did lie about is this one, where Hamas beefed a rocket launch and struck one of their own hospitals and Israel said “yeah, we were active in the zone” before anyone knew it wasn’t an Israeli weapon.

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I’ve never understood how dropping a flyer on someone’s house letting them know they’re going to be bombed stops Hamas. What’s stopping Hamas from fleeing as soon as they see the flyer?

The only person then impacted by the bombing is the guy whose house you bombed.

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9 points

“I’m going to rob your house and shoot all your family in 2 hrs okay?” I know you are innocent people that’s why I told you I’ll kill you in few hours /s . Wtf is this logic in first place!? It’s terrorism.

Plus, so many kids and families died under these bombs and found cut up under rubbles because Israel doesn’t even do that any more. Even before the war, they used to tell hospitals and huge residential buildings to evacuate in 1-2 hrs or be bombed. I can’t even get up to work in 1 hr notice let alone evacuate a house or a full building.

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They pre-drop little fliers that say “we’re about to bomb here; if you don’t want to die you better leave” and then they come back in a couple of days or weeks and bomb.

They used to do that. They aren’t in this war.

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The fact you’re getting downvoted so much is just another reminder how feelings matters more than facts to certain groups of people.

All sides in this war suck but the constant dogpiling against Israel when Hamas uses child labor to dig their tunnels is telling of how people view this conflict.

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First it was obviously Israel that purposefully fired at the hospital and a huge deal, then it slowly changed to “doesn’t matter, it’s Israel’s fault anyway for starting the war”.

It’s incredible

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Younger generation totally fine with Hamas attacking civilians but angry that Israel retaliated and attacked sites that launched rockets is pretty astounding.

All up in arms that Palestinians are dying but not once asking why all the Palestinians were fine with Hamas digging tunnels and hiding military equipment in their backyards.

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No one is fine with Hamas causing the death of 1200 Israelis, and everyone called them terrorist organization that chose violence instead of diplomacy after being hopelessly seized for decades in an open-air prison. Similarly, Israel killed 13000+ which were mostly civilians including 5000+ children. How do you not understand that killing civilians is terrorism just like Hamas did? How do you not understand Israel kills more than 10 for every 1 Israeli killed? How do you not understand those humans have been living under oppressive occupying apartheid regime which generated those groups that chose violence? while Israel is the legitimized government supported by the world strongest countries which commits war crimes? On every type and magnitude of comparison, the IDF and Israel genocidal right wing government has committed more war crimes and are more evil than Hamas. The only solution is be a rational human and admit that they both should go. There will be no justice and Israel will still remain an oppressive occupying apartheid if Hamas disappeared and Israel government stayed the same.

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You’re right. The Israeli and US governments were telling the truth, for once. I bet that left a bad taste in their mouths.

Better wash out that taste by bombing some more little kids.

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6 points

Now that Israel just openly declares it is bombing and invading hospitals, the fog of war bullshit really doesn’t matter anymore.

Maybe this one hospital strike was a rocket. What about all the other ones?

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Yeah, so maybe you’re right, maybe I did steal money from your purse, push grandma down the stairs when she got in my way, left the milk out over night, shit in Dad’s shoes while high on meth, smoked crack in the alley, slapped all my cousins alphabetically, poured cocaine on the dog, but I swear, I didn’t smoke crack in my bedroom and I don’t like being accused of things I didn’t do!

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My understanding is this lie was used by Hamas to isolate Israel from Arab nations where much of the public was frankly horrified by the brutal violence Hamas had aimed specifically at civilians. So no, it wasn’t just “the one relatively inconsequential thing,” it is a lie that has had serious consequences.

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It’s also a large part of why people believe everything Hamas says (e.g. death tolls) while also refusing to believe anything Israel says.

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This is the entire reason for the 10/7 attack. Israel is normalizing relations with Saudi Arabia and this was a planned and timed move by Hamas to try to stop that.

It did not work.

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Considering the fact that Israel is now bombing and invading every hospital, what difference does it make?

If this was a lie then it was only a lie by a few weeks. Israel has fulfilled every accusation that Hamas has made.

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6 points

What other ones, specifically?

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All the other ones were literally illegally used by Hamas as bases of combat operations and storage of their weapons.

According to Israel, the one doing the war crimes. 🙄

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Regardless of whether you think it’s justifiable or not to bomb buildings with both militants and civilians, it’s not a war crime.

But beyond that, you’re claiming Palestine isn’t doing war crimes‽

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-5 points

Ignoring any conclusions you have made from Palestinian reporters, what war crimes have Israel committed?

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So glad the world’s #1 childkillers didn’t kill these particular kids. Props to the IDF and the Israeli government for not killing these specific people for no reason.

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HRW may very well be right here, but if the only investigation the police does after a homicide is talk to some witnesses… but you know, never actually check for fingerprints, or in this case… analyze fragments from the rocket, then I’m not going to go all in and say that they’ve done much of a report. How convenient that people act like this is all the proof they need without even reading what they actually examined.

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Why would the Jews do this?

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They didn’t you dickhead.

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0 points

Yes, that’s the joke

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Not funny.

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