They’ll write “you’re welcome” on your bathroom mirror when they track that you’re in the shower.
All MS software should be considered spyware.
It’s just a shame that Outlook doesn’t really have an alternative with the same level of functionality (not without spending a while adding on a bunch of add-ons anyway), and many workplaces (including mine) enforce use of Outlook and other MS software.
Honestly don’t mind when workplaces enforce X or Y. It’s not like any of my personal stuff goes on the work equipment anyway, nor is work stuff going on my personal equipment.
Fair enough. Unfortunately some bosses force staff to have Outlook and/or Teams on their personal phones as well. I hate it.
depend in what country you work, i can’t answer for you, but for me(brasil) is literally against the law
Yea, you want shit on my phone? Give me a work phone.
As an enterprise IT geek of 30 years, having work stuff on personal devices is a hard no, unless you’re doing a managed containerized setup like decent MDM does.
But anyone with that setup likely wouldn’t force users to use their personal device, because they know how problematic that is.
Don’t worry there actively working on making outlook as functional as the alternatives.
The “new version” appears like the browser version in a wrapper. So many features are just missing, like pinning a shared mailbox to your favorites.
How many languages can you speak perfectly?
My english is self taught so il take it as a compliment that you regard me as a native speaker.
Maybe learn to be less entitled and happy that the majority of the internet is a language you understand.
They just had their first major overhaul in the last decade+ and are looking pretty shiny:
Personally I haven’t had a chance to check it out because I just use my browser for personal email & my work mail is hosted through Microsoft so there’s no pretending not using Outlook at work does anything for me.
That said, I am eagerly waiting for them to give the same treatment to the soon-to-be merged Thunderbird & K9 mail so I can use that for my personal mail on my phone
i have some clients using thunderbird. i scrambled to get prepared for the onslaught of phone calls when theirs got auto-updated to the new ui. all for naught. didn’t get a single call from anyone getting ‘lost’. they did a good job with the refresh.
The newest release is visually awful. It drove me crazy and I had to downgrade back to the last stable (102). The content density was wildly inconsistent and text would be squished in one area and really spaced out in another. The toolbar moved so action buttons were in the title bar area, away from where your mouse would be (compared to before) if you’re interacting with your inbox.
Other than that, the old version works just fine. Multiple email accounts, calendar and contacts. It does the job. Minor nitpicks, like dark mode doesn’t dark evwrything, you still have to manually change your reading window colours. But at least it’s once and done.
The UI is customizable so you can increase or decrease the density of text. I personally like my text dense, but the important thing is that it’s a simple settings option to change.
I also love the new layout, but I think with any UI refresh, there will be people who would hate it even if it was just objectively better.
Thunderbird’s current state is the best it’s ever been
I’ve been using Thunderbird for a good decade or more, and honestly it’s got the best email filtering rules builder of any email client I’ve used. The spam detection has only gotten better at detecting junk spoofed emails over time, it also always displays the email address as well as the name so it’s easy to spot when something funky might be happening and the recent UI tweaks they’ve been making are very well thought out. Oh and they added an option to export/backup your profile to a compressed archive so I no longer have to copy the same .thunderbird folder from computer to computer and every time I install a new Linux distro
Agree this is bullshit, but at least there’s a Reject All button which is far more than we probably would have got prior to the introduction of GDPR.
Oh well as long as it’s their legitimate interest, then by all means!
Admiral Ads: We value your privacy
Me: Reject All
Admiral Ads: Some parties cannot be rejected due to LeGiTiMaTe InTeReStS
Me: my legitimate interests are PiHole and uBO then 🙃
FYI, tracking based on legitimate interest can be rejected, it just isn’t by default. If you click on “reject all” both tracking based on consent and tracking based on legitimate interests are rejected (at least if Microsoft wants to be in compliance with EU rules on tracking).
The only trackers that can be used even if you click on “reject all” are those that are used exclusively for technical purposes and some very light analytics
at least if Microsoft wants to be in compliance with EU rules on tracking
“if” doing a lot of work in that sentence. Even if the EU comes down on them for this, the fines usually end up being less than the cost of doing business. And it’s not easy to prove in a court in the first place.
I think companies know and understand this, so they just end up doing it anyway and pay the inevitable fine. And that assumes that the fine comes at all - even if they pay a fine for this practice, there are probably so many others that they’re not being punished for that it still makes sense for them to ignore it.
I really hope this is something that gets addressed though, as things are getting absurdly out of hand by this point.
In their defence, that is the correct term for this kind of data processing. Legitimate Interest
Good link, thank you.
Still-- Given that “marketing” is an example of a valid legitimate interest, Ima give that a no thanks.
