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We still don’t have affordable alternatives for areas where there is no public transportation or non-car options. A lot of people are barely paying their bills and can’t even consider buying an electric car right now. Not that electric cars are really the answer either. We have a long way to go from where I stand.

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Yeah, like what are we supposed to do when there are few side-walks, work is 30-1hr away at freeway speeds, and public transit is either dirty, unreliable, or unsafe?

Most of us want to do away with our fossil fuel dependancy- but we need better options.

And before anyone says walk or take a bike, that isn’t feasable for everyone

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and public transit is either dirty, unreliable, or unsafe?

Or non-existant. See: most of the US (please send help, passenger rail doesn’t exist here and I live less than an hour from a city)

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The problem aren’t those who can’t afford green alternatives, the problem are those who can afford too much non-green alternatives. The ecological footprint is more or less proportional to the paycheck. #eattherich

And while the ecological footprint is problematic when applied to individuals, it shows quite good which group of people is the problem.

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Interesting tidbit about public transport: there are electric busses. Those busses are used in the northern hemisphere, mainly to advertise to the public how “eco friendly the company is” to consumers. Those busses are heated by diesel aggrigators, and require to burn more fuel than what driving a diesel bus would need for the routes. And apparently diesel busses do not require this kind of upkeep when on standby.

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18 points

A quick search does not yield a single site backing up your claim. Do you have a source?

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I live in a nordic country, very proud of it’s nature, and I know bus drivers.

In all honesty, I’d not be surprised if these cases were isolated, but that has been the greivance of these drivers.

The alternatives to this would be a heated hall, or finding a way to power the heating with renewable energy, but then again, diesel is cheaper than the alternative, and most of the passengers have no idea. There isn’t any proper sanvtions to incentivice not doing this, and considering our current ruling parties, probably won’t be either, but I consider this to be something that should be more talked about.

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11 points

That is not true.

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5 points

I’m okay with more rural areas if the cities have a robust public infrastructure and carbon emissions. Over time, rural areas should be integrated more intimately of course.

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3 points

If I had a bus to take I’d save myself a gas tank at a time.

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2 points

I feel like hybrid is a good middle ground until we crack some code.

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23 points

COP28 policy decisions be like

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I don’t have any kids so my use of ICE vehicles is guilt free? 🤔

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Who says its his biological child? It could be any number of Republicans with one of their child-brides.

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Depends on your philosophy. If you believe carbon footprint/population control you should be guilt free. Mind that shell populized the carbon footprint.

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could easily swap “fossil fuels” for animal products here.

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Except the climate change contribution of all agriculture combined is only a fraction of that caused by fossil fuels.

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A lot of agriculture is driven by fossil fuels though. Or, more specifically, fossil fuels in energy and transportation, as well as in fertilizer production.

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Probably more so for fruit and vegetables than meat though, crops require diesel farm equipment in virtually every aspect of their production, whereas animals are self propelled

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That’s a BIG part of the reason agriculture scores so high on this chart, yeah

I’m not saying that animal husbandry isn’t contributing a lot to climate change, but compared to fossil fuels, it’s absolutely miniscule.

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I would love a source on this

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A quick search failed to produce an article or study directly comparing the two, so I did each separately.

The livestock sector requires a significant amount of natural resources and is responsible for about 14.5% of total anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions (7.1 Gigatonnes of carbon dioxide equivalents for the year

Source (source indicated under graph)

Livestock pretty much entirely contribute to climate change inherently via methane and incidentally via use of fossil fuel for transport and specialized machinery. If all of the latter went fully electric, that 14.5% could probably go down to 10% if not 5%…

To call 5 to 14.5% the equivalent of 73% is absolute lunacy that smacks of ideological bias, especially since you don’t mention plant farming, which contributes a lot as well.

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11 points

“I love you at a surface level, but scratch a little bit deeper and all you’ll find is mindlessness.”

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“I engage in societally acceptable performative displays of responsibility and affection but won’t actually take meaningful action to help you 😘”

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