The Reddit Protest Is Finally Over. Reddit Won.::Reddit corporate claims victory over its disgruntled mods as r/aww, r/pics, and r/videos abandon the “John Oliver rule.”
Bullshit. Nobody, or at least very few people, expected Reddit to revert the changes. A protest can be successful even if it doesn’t lead to immediate change. I was here on Lemmy long before the API nonsense happened over at Reddit, and the difference over here is night and day. Lemmy has been around for awhile, but until these last few months it couldn’t hold a candle to Reddit in terms of content or activity. Maybe it still can’t, but now it has enough users to be viable. Reddit might go on like nothing happened, but in the background a competitor has been born.
I migrated from Reddit. Most of the communities I followed would be hours or days between posts (if they were not private). Everything left was just not pleasant.
I am still fumbling around here but for the most part it is has better discussions and people seem less rude.
I do not regret leaving at this time. I am sure my infinitesimal presence or lack there of does not bother Reddit, but it made me feel better.
Yeah, when I have looked at reddit recently I have observed that mostly the conversation is terrible. There is definitely more content than on Lemmy, but I also like talking to people who speak in entire sentences.
Same here. I think that the only thing that I can do now to add something of value is to participate in good and respectful discussions while sharing content that I genuinely like. A grain of salt ends up adding to a mountain they say.
I deleted 16 years worth of my ‘content’ across 6 handles and moved to Lemmy/kbin. When I do go back to check on Reddit, it’s easy to see that many of the better contributors are gone, the quality of comments and posts, as well as the voting on posts, has greatly diminished. Some subs barely have anything in their ‘new’ queues.
For sure. I’m using Lemmy much more than reddit. But it sucks because I really loved Reddit and I still use it to some degree. But when Relay stops working I might just stop altogether. I’m not installing their shitty app.
Reddit still holds a ton of valuable info in niche topics which will take Lemmy years to build, and that’s only if the niche communities here ever see the light of day. I’ve deleted most of the useless content I have there, but the more helpful ones I’ll leave for the sake of others like me who still visit occasionally for answers you can’t get anywhere else.
For sure. I hope that Lemmy becomes one of several reddit-like platforms that can compete against Reddit. It’s going to be hard considering how Lemmy is designed but it’s going to be nice to have a more decentralised social media presence. I would love if something would come and defeat Facebook as well… I only use it to stay in touch with friends.
Not entirely sure as the dev have yet to comment on why. It seems like he has a deal with Reddit where he is allowed some breathing room to develop and make available a subscription solution. But it’s been awhile now so I dunno. It’s the only app I’ve heard about that is still working.
It was to be expected, but I found Lemmy because of everything that happened, uninstalled Reddit, and now use Mastodon and Lemmy as my social media platforms of choice, so it’s a personal win.
Hopefully, as Lemmy continues to thrive, instances hold up to the pressure of growth and we see an influx of content that made Reddit so valuable to users and Reddit corporate alike.
I also found Lemmy because of Reddit’s fiasco, and I think its much better. Being able to have so many instances to get stuff from and forge communities offers a lot more freedom.
+1, I wouldn’t have even considered moving off of Reddit until all the drama that had happened but once it did - and I found out about Lemmy - I’ve been happily more active on here in my communities of interest. Only reason I go back to Reddit these days is to encourage others to give Lemmy a go.
I am struggling with finding a space for the majority of my communities of interest over here. I curated such a niche homepage over my decade on Reddit that it does not compare being here. But the apps I have found that simulate my experience on my now defunct third party Reddit apps have kept me here, in the hopes that enough folks will migrate over so that communities will grow in the same way they did on Reddit.
I know Rome wasn’t built in a day, and I’m stubborn enough in my refusal to use the official Reddit app, and annoyed enough with old Reddit on mobile, that I will sit here and wait for the same experience I used to get over there.
I wouldn’t say Lemmy is better but it has great potential. The mobile apps aren’t as good as Reddit’s third party apps but that’s changing. The content we are getting here isn’t as good and reddit has its history of content to search through. Lemmy will have its own issues we will have to sort out but it can be done if we work together.
I think a big issue on Lemmy that I’m seeing is people making it to be Reddit-no-corporate when I believe it should be is own unique thing. Since it isn’t corporate and thus no ads I think it would be hard to monetize high “karma” accounts so maybe we can get higher quality discussions. But if also seen people trying to create their echo chambers here by demanding defederation when one instance has a problem with a few trolls.
You compare Lemmy and Reddit but I see it like this : Lemmy is the code, so if you want to compare, compare say lemmy.world with Reddit, it makes more sense.
And lemmy.this and lemmy.that, that’s the cool thing, everyone can have a go at making a “subreddit”, with their own rules.
And I’m not holding my breath for ads, “people have to eat” etc will bring them to popular instances I guess, but then you can just migrate if you want to!
Interesting times!
You’re not alone, the growth stats of several instances show that thousands of us did the same move. I now only use Reddit when I search error codes at work and an old reddit post has the answer. It’s gone from my phone and I’ve been on lemmy since the day Apollo was murdered
They didn’t win, they just didn’t fail as badly some had hoped. What was accomplished was spreading out a fair portion of their user base. Maybe not a huge percentage of it, but enough that they don’t have the same level of monopoly. People are more aware of other options (and Reddit’s flaws), and more will depart in time.
It’s still a drop in the ocean for reddit and the people who left (or just spend less time on it) were never the target audience of this “new course”. Reddit will be just fine.
I’m not sure I’d call it a drop, Reddit has a large number of users yes, but most of those are not active users (post or participate daily.)
And that is not touching the massive number of bots that just recycle old content and mass upvote or downvote when they see keywords to drive a narrative.
Reddit isn’t gonna collapse any day now, but what remains now is a lot of rot. What actual users are left are likely going to notice and start to migrate away towards alternatives with actual user interaction and not just a series of bots and trolls spewing the same predictable results.
I’d argue a lot of the people who actually add value and produce content (for fun, rather than for profit) have left or want to. And those people are what grew reddit in the first place by making it somewhere worth going.
Perhaps reddit will end up just like all those sites that just repost shit from reddit… Except it won’t be reddit anymore.
Haha dude, I was a MAJOR contributor on Reddit. I spent HOURS each day posting fresh new content for people to read on various subreddits.
Drop in an ocean or not, if all the content creators stop doing it, the content stops.
Imagine YouTube without LinusTechTips, or Hollywood without any actors. They are, as you say “a drop in the bucket”, a tiny percentage of overall YouTube users.
But that doesn’t matter because most people on Reddit and TV viewers, are passive consumers. The statistics showed that less than one half of users were actually logged in, and a third or less ever posted anything (non-comments).
Trust me, Reddit is hurting. They haven’t won. They think they’ve won but that’s just shock and adrenaline before it wears off.
The users are the content, and if they all leave, there’s nothing left. Digg and MySpace know this.
And let’s face it. Even if they only lost 3% or whatever of their user base to Lemmy, it was definitely the coolest, smartest, best-looking 3%.
Well put. I think there was permanent damage done to user’s trust, but don’t see many of the smaller subreddit communities migrating away yet.
I worry that Lemmy is even more an echo chamber with a handful of default communities, I hope it grows to the point where I don’t feel obligated to join the popular communities so there is actual content to scroll through.
In my eyes Gizmodo is not seeing the big picture. The protest didn’t kill reddit, but that was not a realistic outcome to begin with. However it significantly hurt reddit and helped push lemmy as an alternative. Reddit will be around for a long time, until lemmy has more widespread adaptation. It’s the beginning of the end for reddit and they’ll experience that with a disaster ipo
Lemmy actually feels like a viable alternative now with apps like Sync upping the experience. Seems like Reddit literally shot itself in the foot by kicking 3rd party apps to competition.
Lemmy appears to be financially stable due to user donations. Reddit relies on investors and monetizing users.
I bet, if we keep donating like we need, and the code iterates and works… this place can be hopping. I’d like quality to not suffer, but there will be more options as population increases.
I’d love to learn there’s a LemmyPi version…
I’d still want to support the larger project, but the idea of having my own, stable, federated how I want… that would be cool.
Not sure a RPi4 has what’s needed, however.
Reddit won? Good for them. I’m still not going back.
