As a software engineer I find it miraculous the amount of people that whine about somebody wanting to get paid for putting weeks, months, and years of their life into a product 100s of thousands of people CHOOSE to use.
Have been using the Sync reddit app daily for years after paying a couple of quid to remove ads whenever I did that. Felt like a steal then and expensive now so, on balance, I’m comfortable having paid the ad randsome. I feel better knowing it all goes to the developer for his personal efforts.
So proud to be present and involved in history’s first lemmy app war. I’ll be telling my grandchildren about this some day.
Same. I’m very grateful for the FOSS options, they’re like a public option. They create a baseline that paid apps have to surpass, but there’s nothing wrong with devs getting paid for their work and that payment shouldn’t have to be at the whims of donations. I view it as more choice and more choice is good. This is a small dev on an open platform that can’t lock out FOSS options. It’s not a mega corp building a monopoly. Sync is not hurting anyone by being a paid option.
It’s not a mega corp building a monopoly. Sync is not hurting anyone by being a paid option.
Wouldn’t they see this as a dev trying to make some fortune over non-profit service?
Not sure though if the dev already automatically donates a portion of his sells to lemmy.
The way i look at is if you give me a good app(sync) with good functionality and a nice ui I don’t mind seeing ad’s or throwing some money the devs way.
My big issue with the reddit app was there was no equivalent exchange going on i had a shitty app with awful ui that was buggy slow showed me adds and tracked my data I didn’t get anything from that so I had to stop.
Paying is fine, it’s the SHIT TON OF THIRD PARTY TRACKERS they put in the app that worry me
They get completely disabled if you pay, that’s the point. I haven’t got a single tracking ping on my PiHole, I bought adfree.
Wait… you pay for sync not to spy on you?
I hope boost doesn’t go the same way.
My trust was already broken. These lemmy instances come free of charge, free of ads and free of trackers, and this pig of a dev comes around and pulls out an à la spez shenanigan and everyone praises him. He should be keelhauled. And the lemmy servers should block apps that insert ads unless they share profits. I’d be happy to pay for features that add to lemmy, not for features that were taken away. Fuck sync for lemmy. There, i said it
Let me get this right - you’re worried about tracking it use an Android phone?
That’s where I’m at. Don’t care that it’s not FOSS or the Dev charges. I just wouldn’t support an app that puts trackers and ads on a product that inherently doesn’t. Putting it behind a paywall wouldn’t bother me a bit.
That said, that’s why I don’t use it nor support it but don’t give a shit if someone else does.
Can’t we just be happy that we’re not on Reddit instead of fighting over which UI we prefer!?
Maybe the real Reddit was the arguments with friends we made along the way
Many of us left reddit due to which AI UI we prefer. So I can see why this happens now.
Not picking on you, but I see people use “AI” instead of “UI” more and more these days and I wonder if it’s part of the reason all startups suddenly feel like they have to introduce AI features — everyone keeps talking about how important it is after all
I thought it was due to wanting to try a non corporate alternative to social media. Before Spez mishandling of the incident I was ready to just use old.reddit.com on Firefox and figure out how to get RES onto mobile, or just use it less and more on desktop only. Had he just quietly let the protest pass by without throwing a tantrum I’d probably still be using reddit.
Had he just quietly let the protest pass by without throwing a tantrum I’d probably still be using reddit.
Honestly, if reddit has just been upfront and said “we need to consolidate where people browse our site on mobile for our IPO”, people would still have been annoyed but i don’t think all the drama would have taken place. The issue was really just in the way that the management handled the situation by giving devs a “fuck you” API pricing and acting like TPA devs were being unreasonable for not wanting to pay the ridiculous fees. If they had just been upfront and honest then I don’t think I’d be here on lemmy.
My reply to all the naysayers:
Thanks for making Lemmy feel like home, it wouldn’t without you!
The reality is it’s a free world, regardless of what morality you put on things there are going to be things that happen that you don’t like. That’s life.
Like it or not Lemmy has had explosive growth because of apps like Sync. Because of them being killed off by Reddit. If it weren’t for the drama of Reddit doing that, I and millions of other users wouldn’t be here right now as we’d still be on Reddit.
Even people who weren’t using the 3rd party apps left Reddit because Reddit’s actions left a bad taste in their mouths.
So, morality of one guy charging for his honest work in creating the paid or ad supported app aside, you should be thanking the apps including sync for helping drive so many users to Lemmy.
If you yourself don’t want to use a paid app, then that’s okay! We’re all allowed to respond or react to things how we want, but being incredibly divisive for something that a lot of people wanted and that really is inconsequential is almost universally frowned on.
Just let people do what they want and don’t shoot them down for it. More options for browsing Lemmy = more Lemmings = more content.
Much love my dudes! We may disagree on this but we agree on many many many more things I’m sure, just because we’re on Lemmy instead of Reddit in the first place is proof of that! ✌️
People care too much about which app you use. At the end of the day, as long as you’re happy with sync it shouldn’t matter
I agree, just wish they would stop mentioning how their app is “just so great and only $20 to get no ads” in every single thread and every other post on every instance
My comment to that is in every single thread and every other post on every other instance someone is saying how sync is ad filled and tracker heavy. So let’s just all agree to never talk about apps, ever.
I wasn’t a Sync user on Reddit, but Relay didn’t make it over to Lemmy. Sync has some of the most non-intrusive ads I’ve ever seen, and that’s coming from someone who is extremely anti-ads. They’re very different from the actual posts and super easy to just scroll past. It’s also very clearly made by someone who is great with UI/UX.
Oh man, Sync is just so great and only $20 to get no ads you should give it a try!
Play store link: Sync for Lemmy
The only comments I personally see are complaining about the price. Most people just use it. I subscribed instantly and knew I would before the price was revealed. I’m only saying it because it’s on topic now, but tend not to get into the discussion because in the end it’s up to the individual whether or not the cost makes the app worth using.
I use Sync because it was my favorite client for reddit but I’m definitely gonna hold out on paying until there is a sale or something. My usage of Lemmy is not that high at the moment.
But that’s more in response to people saying it cost over 100$ to remove ads and it has trackers.
The ultra life time cost 100$, it stops the ads and also comes with some extra features that isn’t needed to enjoy sync.
For 20$ the ads will stop and the trackers will be disabled.
Why would you need to pay $20 to access free content? Devs don’t pay any creator who makes you scroll Lemmy. They are useless and sell you air.
Unless it should? And we shall bully them? They should feel unneeded there?
They put ads and ask for cash while showing other people’s free resources they put their mind to create? While no other client do so? And plenty of people\bots enable them? And call that a pointless argument on fediverse? Lmao.
Their spines should be broken asap, and everything around Lemmy should stay free or donation-based. If it is not, next you see are paywalled apps and instances. No one would benefit from a trend of purchaseable clients but these devs, while they don’t bring content, or anything to the table. Their app is useless without others’ work, and yet they charge you 20-100 bucks for being a middleman between you and it. It’s senseless.
Fuck sync devs. Fuck sync shills. Fuck them all.
They bring something to the table: the app. It’s a lot of work to build an app, and takes a lot of time and knowledge. It’s perfectly okay to monetize your work. If you don’t like it, why not build one yourself? The servers are there, and they are free. So is the documentation, and the protocols.
Their invasive tactics are concerning. If we’d eat that, other devs may follow. It may become the new reality.
Servers aren’t free. Donating to your instance is better than paying forban add-free Sync experience. This way you also help other users by making downtime even less noticeable.
Thanks for making Lemmy feel like home, it wouldn’t without you!
The reality is it’s a free world, regardless of what morality you put on things there are going to be things that happen that you don’t like. That’s life.
Like it or not Lemmy has had explosive growth because of apps like Sync. Because of them being killed off by Reddit. If it weren’t for the drama of Reddit doing that, I and millions of other users wouldn’t be here right now as we’d still be on Reddit.
Even people who weren’t using the 3rd party apps left Reddit because Reddit’s actions left a bad taste in their mouths.
So, morality of one guy charging for his honest work in creating the paid or ad supported app aside, you should be thanking the apps including sync for helping drive so many users to Lemmy.
If you yourself don’t want to use a paid app, then that’s okay! We’re all allowed to respond or react to things how we want, but being incredibly divisive for something that a lot of people wanted and that really is inconsequential is almost universally frowned on.
Just let people do what they want and don’t shoot them down for it. More options for browsing Lemmy = more Lemmings = more content.
Much love my dude! We may disagree on this but we agree on many many many more things I’m sure, just because we’re on Lemmy instead of Reddit in the first place is proof of that! ✌️
Someone downvoted you for the first paragraph, I guess.
I don’t think Sync impacted the reach of Lemmy just yet (it rolled out how many days before?) but it would, maybe. Especially for those who used it before.
I spat acid not because I’m pissed at people who use it or devs especially, but for not seeing any critique. It seems like an important turning point for Lemmy as a community. And no one bat an eye. I acted as a counterbalance. A mad one, and picked some low-stakes fights. It was funny.
Have a nice day, dude\ss.
Remember folks whether you choose to use sync or another lemmy app none of us are using reddits shitty mobile app and in that way we are all winners
This to me is the most salient point. I think this initial noise will fade away once the various options are all available.
I’m on both so there’s that and I ain’t rebuying sync when all he literally did was a copy and paste job.
Are you stupid? The backend is completely different and there are many many changes required since the fundamental concept of federation-based services is different and requires different user decisions, which need a UI. No instances on Reddit, are there? So there’s not an infinite number of log in urls, there is no need to gracefully handle defederation, instance-level blocking, etc.
It’s not a copy paste job.
Also, he offers a “restore purchases” button. It’s in settings.
