Pretty much the title. I’ve been watching more realistic super hero shows like The Boys and Invincible. The reoccurring themes is that with great power comes great immorality.

I think it’s easy for us normies to respect other people and their property because there are clear consequences for violating social norms. But what would the average person do if they had super powers?

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Power does not corrupt. It reveals. If you have the power to do whatever you want, it becomes apparent what you wanted to do. If having this power makes you do evil deeds, it means you already wanted to do evil deeds but lacked the power to.

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Just like tequila!

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For anyone who wants to learn more you should read The Power Broker by Robert Caro

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That’s it! I knew I learned of this from something but forgot the name of it.

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Lindsay Ellis’s Game of Thrones video?

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God damn Moses

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I think the issue is that it’s impossible to have “perfect morals” and morals are subjective. Once you have absolute power there will no longer be someone or something to keep you in check when it comes to more questionable morals. Sure you might not think you are doing anything wrong, but you can still look like an evil villain to everyone else.

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Sounds a lot like Kant with his morality of principals to me.

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Dude. they ain’t morals if the only thing stopping me is consequence

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Also, lazyness and procrastination.

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So you’re a consequentialist, then. That’s just one short step to utilitarianism, which is a pretty solid moral foundation.

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Ehhhh, Consequentialism judges the morality of an action by its consequence. I’m simply not stealing shit because the inconvenience of hassle.

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I think OP is guided by virtue ethics actually.

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Honestly I think I would mostly use it for naps. So many naps.

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Honestly. This.

There is so much that I would want to do that requires time to be “flowing” that the only things I could probably get done would be some cleaning, reading, and some rest.

Food doesn’t cook without time. Computers and other electronics need time to process inputs. If I want to get anywhere I’m walking.

The only immoral stuff might be some shoplifting, maybe. But even then I wouldn’t really be motivated if I could afford whatever it was otherwise.

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I’d definitely fuck with people who were being shitty, not straight up evil, just mischievous:

Park in a bike lane? Oh no, all your valve stems have disappeared!

Attack someone? Your shoelaces are now tied to your belt, which is also now fastened around your arms.

Steal from a person? Your shoes are now hanging from a lamp post and the stuff you stole got unstolen.

Be a shady company that screws everyone over? Your infrastructure keeps breaking and funds keep disappearing, how weird!

Invade Ukraine and commit hundreds of war crimes? Oh no, you fell out of a window and also I have now been “recruited” by the CIA because they found out about my ability to pause time. Now I’m forced to do morally ambiguous things under the guise of national interests.

Oh shit, OP was right!

Also, hey Netflix: Hit me up if you wanna do a series, I know you’ll literally hire anyone. I do comedy too.

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There is so much that I would want to do that requires time to be “flowing”…

If we’re talking about physics-accurate superpowers, please add partial blindness - photons are frozen in place, they can’t reach your eyelids, unless you walk into them. And suffocation due to completely still air.

And … now you can’t even nap in peace 😐.

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On second thought I’d probably just troll the French by moving them to the bottom of flights of stairs after they’ve walked up.

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Photons move at the speed of light relative to the observer, regardless of the observer’s speed.

If we’re going physics-accurate, you wouldn’t be blind, though you’d probably be a black hole (for a very brief time, before you evaporated due to Hawking radiation).

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Would be pretty cool for transport too: Arrive anywhere instantly; you’d never be late.

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You would think so, but once you get used to it, you’d be like, ‘What’s the hurry? I can be there immediately’ and start traveling at the nick of the moment, and then eventually start showing up late, even with the superpower. If you were late to begin with, you’d be late all the way through. I know I would be.

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Yeah, that sounds pretty probable.

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I know I’d wait last minute for everything, or even worse than I do now anyways

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Yeesh, I’m trying to relax not be attacked.

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You are truly the best of us.

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This is an awful lot like the idea that the only thing keeping people from raping and murdering is belief in god. It says a lot more about the person claiming it than anyone else.

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Wups, I meant to reply to a comment about the Mongol/Huns on another post (hence the mention of nomadic tribes). I was wondering why my comment got downvoted lol

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your morals would go out the window.

Why would they? I don’t enjoy hurting people, and I wouldn’t start enjoying it if I could magically get away with it.

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The counterargument for this line of thinking is that it’s just theoretical. You don’t have actual experience with the scenario, so you can’t truly know how you’d behave.

We all like to think we’re paragons of virtue. But when the chips are down, most people behave in ways they never expected to.

In the words of an eminent poet, “Everybody got a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”

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Sure, I don’t know how I’d react. I know for sure I’d do dodgy, illegal things. I also know that legal and moral are not synonyms. And I also know that the only person I have no choice but to live with is myself, and I have no intention of doing anything that makes me hate myself. Stopping time doesn’t change that.

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If I can’t truly know how I’d behave, then this discussion is pointless.

I claim that you don’t know how you’d truly behave, and that people are generally decent and wouldn’t harm others if there were no consequences

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