I have been out of the loop for a while with the development of Linux/GNU based OSes on phones. However, with seeing how companies (like reddit) can change the rules as they wish, I want to see if completely switching to Linux is possible.

Long story short… what are the current phone providers that have Linux as an OS, or what is the best way to run Linux on an off-the-shelf phone?

As a side-question, is Nextcloud still the next best option for a complete service alternative to Google/iCloud?

Thank you!

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Android runs on a unix kernel.

I personally think an open source android rom is a good middle ground between running a full linux OS and google’s Android.

I don’t know what roms are good right now though.

I would probably go for a fairphone and install the non google rom: https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/9979154556817-Google-free-Android

Or check if your current phone is supported by any open source Rom.

In any case you will most likely have a lot less apps since you would have only access to non google play services apps. There is a fairly decent choice of apps on F-Droid but your experience will remain limited.

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I’m waiting for my preordered shiftphone 8 to be released. They promised to cooperate with custom rom devs and improve the experience compared to their current model the Shift6mq which already can run postmarketos.

Also Nextcloud is a fantastic alternative to google/microsoft/apple cloud.

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Thank you for postmarketos. I had a look and it actually looks exactly like what I had in mind. They even have a community on lemmy at https://lemmv.ml/c/postmarketos I now have to check out the shiftphones and see if Linux supports apps like the banking apps, 2FA, etc. or if they can be emulated through some kind of Android laver. Otherwise it would have to be an Android OS without Google or a separate phone for those apps.

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postmarketos is the most stable and matured mainline linux mobile os. For 2FA, banking apps and android apps in general there is waydroid ehich I already use on my fedora laptop.

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Do you know how the performance of waydroid is on postmarketos?

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You have to find a phone that is compatible with open source Linux Phone OS. Most of the OS websites give a listing of what phone make/model works. FYI, almost all the Google Pixel phones work.

Here are a few I am keeping an eye on when my Pixel 4a/5G stops getting updates from Google…this year. /

LineageOS/ GrapheneOS/ CalyxOS/ e.foundation/

Youtube videos and other websites are good sources on how to install, etc.

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You’re talking about Android (Linux) phones, and not GNU/Linux as stated in the question.

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LineageOS/ GrapheneOS/ CalyxOS/ e.foundation

Aren’t all of those Android derivatives?

I think Ubuntu Touch, or postmarketOS would be more in line with what OP is asking.

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Yes, they are Android derivities, but Android is basically Linux…runs off a linux kernel. If you want a pure linux system, I think there is a KDE platform for phones and Ubuntu (I think) but you can’t run regular Android Apps, do banking, etc. You are more open source, but limited in certain areas.

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Because phone manufacturers don’t open source their firmware, you probably won’t be able to get Linux on an off-the-shelf phone. (Please someone correct me if I’m wrong).

Your best bet, if you want to go down thus route, is to get the PinePhone Pro. It’s relatively affordable.

Before you try anything, think hard about your relationship with your phone and what you expect from it. Does work require you have an app installed? What kind of apps do you use regularly? You won’t have things like: CVS for meds, AA for flying, Steam for 2fa, Signal, Telegram, google maps, etc. Some you might be able to use their webapps, but the browser might be a bit sluggish because it’s the full desktop version. Firefox isnt fully mobile friendly. Battery life won’t be what you’re used to. Linux on the phone is just like your regular Linux, so you’ll have the stuff your used to from there, and you’ll having calling, sms, mms, and voicemail.

I have the PinePhone and the Librem 5, but I still use my android.

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There are a couple of phones that can run Linux. Oneplus 6 for an example. But most can’t indeed. PostmarketOS has a list of devices that their distro works on.

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Phones that run mainline Linux are seldom. The only ones that come to my mind are PinePhone Pro (outdated hardware, 400 bucks) and Librem 5 (also outdated hardware, incredibly expensive 1300$ !). If you are serious get the PinePhone Pro. But expect pitfalls because you can’t just run Android apps.

Nextcloud is still the best option for self hosted cloud services.

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