You can go to a Starbucks and leave your laptop and phone on a desk. Literally no one will take it. Mostly because of fear of execution.
Hyperbole isn’t helping you make your point. Singapore’s punishment for theft:
Punishment for theft
379. Whoever commits theft shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 3 years, or with fine, or with both.
What a fucking grotesque conservatopia.
Singapore has been ranked as the happiest countries in Asia and in the top 25 happiest in the entire world.
I find it rather hypocritical of people who have never been there, denounce the country but the residence who live there apparently are very happy.
Also, I’d be willing to bet that many of the people speaking ill of Singapore are also the type who would say you shouldn’t judge other cultures. Well that’s exactly what you are doing now.
I’ve never been there and I have little interest in going, but the people there have chosen those draconian laws and with them, they have incredibly low crime and drug use. So you might not agree with their laws, but you can’t disagree with the results, and the people there feel it is a tradeoff they are willing to live with.
So who the fuck are you to tell those people how they should rule their own country?
I don’t know anything about Singapore besides what a friend who grew up there said. She came here to the US as an adult. Tried very hard to stay and worked very hard to bring her parents over to the US. Very confusing given that she had nothing but great things to say about the place and got very mad if I said that the US might be better in any small way. She had a lot of complaints about the US and many I found unfair even if many were totally fair.
So then I asked her: do you think that I a black woman could do what you did here in the US in Singapore. And she skipped over my question and continued her rant about how great Singapore is. That’s all I personally need to know. Singapore probably is great, but only if you’re the right kind of person, the acceptable person. I get the feeling that she and her family weren’t those kinds of people and that’s why she left and she’s pulling her family here to the US.
From my perspective, Singapore is a dystopian shithole I’m glad I wasn’t born to.
With that said, it’s so common for immigrants to criticise the country they migrate to. And it’s usually unfounded. But not always.
The only Singaporeans I knew were heavy travellers. Strong desire to study and work out of their country. Very proud of their country, however. One of them was a friendship I had to end because I couldn’t handle the eccentricity and constant showing off.
Inversely, the only Singaporean I know (born and raised until adulthood, lived in the states briefly and went back) has always been proud of the good but very critical of the archaic things, and does not agree with the pedestal the US occasionally places Singapore on. He’s just one person but has been fair enough that I’m weirdly surprised to hear there are people like that.
Singapore probably is great, but only if you’re the right kind of person, the acceptable person.
And where would be the difference to the US? Too many people in the US seem not to be the “right kind of person”. Especially those with non-white skin or in some states even those who happen to be born with two X chromosomes.
You’re lecturing an American black woman about what it’s like to be non-white in America.
Nice job.
Well, they were stupid enough to do something drug related in Singapore. Which is known to be less than nice about all things drugs.
You don’t know their circumstance. Gun to your head you would do stupid shit too.
I don’t really like this take. The death penalty isn’t cultural and people who oppose it are free to vocalise it. Singaporean culture is great because it is a unique melting pot of many different cultures, the death penalty is a legal matter and isn’t drawn from the composite cultures of the people that live there.
you can’t disagree with the results
It’s the third hanging this week for drugs offenses so it would seem that the policy isn’t completely effective
the people there feel it is a tradeoff they are willing to live with.
They may be willing to live with it, but i wouldn’t presume that they are in favour of the policy. Singapore is a one party state and rated a ‘flawed democracy’ in The Economist democracy index. Frankly, Singaporeans aren’t consulted on the matter.
who the fuck are you to tell those people how they should rule their own country?
On a micro level, who the fuck are the authorities of Singapore to take another person’s life.
Apparently you know better than a country of 5.4 million people and their freely elected government and the rules that they enacted.
Gotcha.
Singapore has not been voted happiest country. I have no idea where you are getting this info from.
Singapore has been constantly highlighted as most stressed, most unhappy and least satisfied.
https://mothership.sg/2023/03/singapore-happiest-country-asia/#:~:text=Singapore has been ranked as,UN)%20World%20Happiness%20Report%202023.
UN Happiness Index 2023.
You’re perfectly fine to take your complaint to the UN since apparently you know better. Apparently.
I’m against the death penalty in all cases . I also think all drugs should be legal , it will literally saves thousands of lives people could buy the drugs from a trusted source and not accidentally overdose . Making it illegal just makes it so you have to buy untested drugs from sketchy places . It doesn’t really matter how many people the police arrest there is always going to be someone there to replace them as long as someone is willing to o buy . But I guess the threat of death is a good reason not to do drugs …
From the article:
Mohamed Shalleh had argued that a friend he owed money to had tricked him into believing he was delivering contraband cigarettes.
You support this man being executed? Per the article it was for 54 grams of heroin which the state claims is enough for:
600 users for a week
Which is a blatant lie and evidence the state resorts to falsehoods to justify its barbarism. 1/2 a gram a day is common for an addicted user, so this man was carrying (unknown to him) just over 100 doses.
Lol
Why don’t you go live in Singapore and see how long you’d last?
incredibly low crime and drug use
So does Japan, on paper at least. You have no idea what is actually going on behind the scenes over there. Japan is an incredibly dangerous place to live if you live in the cities, so easy to disappear.
who the fuck are you to tell those people how they should rule their own country?
A human. Humans understand murder is wrong. This isn’t debatable.
If you think murder is ok in any situation, then you best be ok with being murdered when enough people are convinced if that situation, whether or not it’s true.
5.5 million humans said they were OK with it which is why they have the laws that they have. You’re just one schmuck behind a keyboard trying to tell 5.5 million people how to live their lives. How dare you.
No dude. Just no. Murder is wrong. That’s a hard stop. A bunch of people being ok with it or too scared to stand up doesn’t mean it’s not wrong. That’s an insane take. A whole bunch of people think racism is ok but that doesn’t magically make it so. You should really work on being less of a follower. Especially if it makes you genuinely defend murder.
You think every single person in Singapore agrees with these laws? Are they a hive mind? Seems like you’re the one telling them how to live their lives since you’re saying they all are of one mind. Unless, of course, you have a poll that shows unanimous agreement. Do you have such a poll?
Here is a link to the World Happiness Report website with the list for 2023. Singapore is 25th overall, which is ten spots behind the United States. I also took the liberty of averaging out the total from the available years of the World Happiness Index on Wikipedia, and you can see that information below:
2023 - 25th
2020 - 31st
2019 - 34th
2018 - 34th
2017 - 26th
2016 - 22nd
2013 - 30th
Average from the 7 available years of available Wikipedia Data (rounded up) - 29th
Link to the World Happiness Report for 2023:
https://worldhappiness.report/ed/2023/world-happiness-trust-and-social-connections-in-times-of-crisis/#ranking-of-happiness-2020-2022
Who the fuck are you? Only brainwashed Singaporeans leap to its defense. Shitty little city honestly.
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2022/country-chapters/singapore
Yeah another reason why my next vacation in Asia won’t be there.
This is the best response - vote with your dollars. And let any friends / fam in Singapore know they’re losing your travel, perhaps, eventually they’ll join the modern world in terms of prohibitions.
Just curious, Japan, China and Indonesia aren’t pot friendly, where would you go instead around the pacific side of asia?
It isn’t about cannabis for me in terms of travel. It is about all the other insane legal stuff there. Yes, I prefer to get high before I get on a plane these days but I can manage fine without doing that.
In any case my next vacation to Asia is probably going to be a two day stopover in South Korea followed by a week or two in Thailand.
A bit harsh but hey, respect their laws.
Yes good law. Piss someone off, they can plant heroin on your belongings and then turn you in. Next thing you know you lose your life.
Do you actually hold this position in all situations? It was illegal to harbor Jewish fugitives in Nazi Germany, should those laws be respected?
When you say “no, of course not”, maybe actually consider what your position is before posting. Because nobody’s position is to just “respect laws” in all circumstances.
