203 points

Frog: “Hey, did any of you guys notice the water get a couple degrees hotter?”

Other Frogs: Already boiled alive

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Frog with hacked firestick and a pirate subscription: huh?

Frog who downloads media himself and hosts it on his own server: you guys are in water?

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9 points

You are not immune to propaganda

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And in particular, even if you avoid being exposed to it, you are still affected by other people being exposed to it.

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But to adverts. :-p

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3 points

Hacked how?

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I dunno exactly, I just know many people have “hacked firesticks” that basically run Kodi, then they pay some dodgy dude on WhatsApp like 30 euro a year and get e v e r y t h i n g as a streaming service. Sometimes the service gets shut down, but apparently they’re pretty decent at referring you to their new operation with credit - and even if not, you’ve paid far less than a full legit TV package.

I’m honestly a little jealous, as they even get live sports streams. Meanwhile, if I try and get them I have to go to very dodgy websites, and often the stream cuts off at key times. However, I just can’t bring myself to pay for piracy.

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Frog who downloads media himself and hosts it on his own server: you guys are in water?

And when that frog realizes that all the other frogs in the water have been caught and eaten already, where do you think the predators are going to turn to next?

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You’re right! People should stand against this NOW by not paying for these shitty services!

Wait a minute…

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If someone could explain to me why that comment is getting downvotes?

The point I’m making is that just looking out for yourself is never enough, sooner or later its your turn.

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It’s why I’m struggling really, really hard not to feel to annoyed with the average consumers that still buy this trash instead of supporting less oppressive alternatives.

Like, yeah, people should just be able to buy what they like and not have to concern themselves with the overall market trends they’re helping to entrench… But holy shit is it becoming a serious problem. The customers are what drive the direction of the market, but the customers base isn’t just tech enthusiasts anymore, it’s literally everyone, and they are sleepwalking us all off a god damn cliff. By the time they wake up to start complaining about it, we will already be halfway down.

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By the time they wake up to start complaining about it, we will already be halfway down.

They’ll be at the “too big to fail” point, where to try to reverse the trend would crash the economy that’s based on selling customer privacy and information.

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I’m still alive.

But only because I ditched Amazon Prime at the end of the month.

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4 points

Of course you are. Frogs jump out if the water gets too hot regardless how slowly the temperature is rising.

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I left when they started charging $10-11 for whole food deliveries. It used to be included.

They also used to have Amazon fresh and Amazon pantry delivery, but they exited my suburban area, too.

So now Walmart+ gets my money.

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The EU seems to be the only major entity actually trying at this point.

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God Bless the EU.

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146 points

I will absolutely employ a 0 tolerance policy on forced ads.

If I have paid for a service to be ad free and you throw me an ad, I won’t pay for your service.

Hell, I’ll back-charge through my creditor and say I paid for a service that was not delivered.

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70 points

Careful of backcharging large companies. They’ll remove your account from all their services. Looking at you Google.

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39 points

That product tying is reason #3821 we need to start enforcing anti-trust law again.

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They don’t delete anything, though. They just deny YOU access to it.

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Not your computer, not your data. The cloud is just a buzzword for someone else’s computer. Always run local backups.

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8 points

You get banned retrospectively too. I got banned from Adsense in 2003 and magically got demonetised from YouTube in 2006.

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4 points

Stop, I can only get so erect

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1 point

I’d look through the fine print if it says that they won’t serve ads. Cause I doubt that.

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11 points

‘we reserve the right to change… (this, that, and everything else)’

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3 points

The fine print didn’t say I won’t do a chargeback either. Two can play this game.

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4 points

I’d try to get a refund first unless you never plan to shop on Amazon again.

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And that’s the exact reason that less and less people are taking credit cards and only taking debit and ACH.

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Where do you see businesses accepting debit but not credit cards? I’ve only ever seen it accepting both or neither (in the case of neither, you have to physically mail in a check or link up ACH information). And the only time I see ACH or physical payment accepted but not debit/credit is with governmental agencies in the US, because credit/debit costs them money to process while ACH/physical money does not.

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I haven’t experienced not taking credit cards, but T-Mobile just got rid of my ten dollar auto pay unless I switch from credit card to debit card.

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My barber won’t take credit, only debit or cash.

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6 points

not really. it’s that credit cards usually cost a lot more per transaction in fees to the merchant.

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I’ve never seen a merchant that doesn’t take a credit card. wtf are you talking about

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Really? I’ve seen literally thousands, of cash only businesses lol.

I’ve never seen anything like a debit card only or whatever, but cash only businesses are fucking everywhere my dude.

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People, or businesses?

For the rare business where it’s (unfortunately) standard practice e.g. gyms, I just setup a new (free) checking account with my existing bank.

Other than those rare, and “standarized” cases, they’d have to be critical to my ability to keep breathing for me to even consider using a check, or another payment method linked directly to bank, including a debit transaction that requires my PIN, or ever using my debit card online.

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131 points

“Wow, I can’t believe these fire sticks are so cheap”

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Bought an early one. Used it for less than a year.

I still have it. Can they be flashed with Lineage or something?

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That one guy hacked a company with a fire stick lol

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What? That’s crazy, I’ve never heard this story. Got anything I should search on?

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Only old firmwares

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Meh, could be fun to play with. Keep it on a DMZ lab segment.

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I’m surprised it wasn’t showing ads before. The fire tablets are discounted if they show ads on the lock screen.

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A great solution is just to stop buying from Amazon. Like, anything.

Chances are you did survive before Amazon was a thing. It’s possible.

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I gave them 1 star and left a bad review for each of the fire tvs…they called me about the revie and then did nothing…buy a roku and throw out your $800 fire tv…it is worth it to take the loss for your own sanity

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I recently bought a Roku and was surprised to find they force ads on their home screen. It’s obviously not as terrible as a fullscreen ad but its still very annoying.

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Roku also does not work well with Crunchyroll at all.

You can’t get any dubs, and if you get subtitles - they only seem to be in the language the show is. E. G. Japanese subtitles only for Japanese Audio.

It’s so dumb that neither Crunchyroll nor Roku will budge.

If you don’t care about anime. Roku is better than the alternatives.

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Roku has done occasional full screen ads too.

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buy a roku

Wait, what? A Roku has more ads than a fire TV. 1/3 of the screen is always an ad. For new releases they’ll sell the entire screen as an ad. ( Disney’s Seeing Red was a full screen splash ad on my Roku.)

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OK open to any other options and I mean any…there has got to be someone who can wite hacks to fix issues like this…they are doing it for chrome?

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the ads on roku do not impact my experience, they go away as soon as i open anything.

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Lol the Roku has far more invasive ads. Get a Chromecast, or best yet, an Nvidia Shield.

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You pay the Amazon tax indirectly often enough regardless. Huge chunks of the Internet run on AWS. And if it’s not AWS, then it’s Google Cloud or Microsoft Azure. Shareholders win again.

As for not buying shitty products, returning them when you realise how shitty they are, cancelling contracts when services turn shitty, etc. Yes, do that.

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It’s true you can’t really control who uses AWS and you’ll end up on sites that use it. But it’s so easy to not buy anything from Amazon directly or from other stores.

Their shipping services aren’t even that good any more from what I hear (I haven’t bought from them in years).

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It’s also a terrible site now. It’s nothing but Alibaba crap marked up 700% and counterfeit products.

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True dat. Fuck advertising. Fuck capitalism. Stop buying crap. Eat the rich.

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3 points

Before amazon existed all the companies they killed for their monopoly existed.

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I to this day have proudly never bought anything from Amazon (unless you count the one ebay purchase that was shipped from Amazon without my knowledge). However I have run into a couple of products, namely quality name brand USB4 cables (Plugable and Ugreen) that I for the life of me cannot find anywhere but Amazon in Australia.

So yes I have proudly survived without Amazon until very soon. I will try to continue to not use Amazon however with some sellers opting to exclusively sell on Amazon, I feel I am being left with no choice. It seems not enough boycotted Amazon when it mattered to the point that there are an increasing amount of items that are only available through them.

Facebook and Amazon are on my shit list due to their shear contempt for their customers/products and employees.

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I would but at that point it would be very difficult to get some of the specialty tools I use. I have a whole catalog and it takes ages to get anything from it. Granted I don’t use their fire TV or whatever and so I’m not actually seeing these shitty ads.

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Naw, it didn’t stop any other company i boycotted, and thinking it does is actually a silly idea to consider if you give it a minute to be in the ol’ noggin.

If it did make a difference there’d be a bunch of astroturf campaigns against voting with your wallet, wouldn’t there?

The only thing that stops this is something we’re not ready for yet.

EDIT: wimps.

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It doesn’t make a difference unless enough people boycott. The problem is not enough people care enough to actually stop going there to hurt their revenue.

Then there’s the problem with the current political division, at least in the US, where if something upsets one side, the other likes to dig in to stick it to them and often winds up giving the boycotted company more money than they’ll ever lose.

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And what is that one thing?

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The only thing that stops this is something we’re not ready for yet.

EDIT: wimps.

And what is that one thing?

“Viva la Revolucion!”, probably.

Hot take incoming, apologies in advance for the lecture…

What is it about the newer Generations that they’re so binary about everything, that it’s all or nothing, and nothing in between?

How about we try voting in the right people into office first?

And before you reply saying what a waste of time it is, only bother replying if you actually have the Congress app installed on your phone, if you watch the votes that are held and passed, and you can name your Representative and your Senators.

Because they sure as hell not paying attention to you, and what you comment about here on Lemmy. You need to get more in their faces with your opinions, if you want them to treat you with respect and seriously.

And yes, it might all fail anyways, because money talks and bullshit walks, but at least you can look in the mirror and say you tried.

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I can’t wait to find out either!

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