Russian security forces raided gay clubs and bars across Moscow Friday night, less than 48 hours after the country’s top court banned what it called the “global LGBTQ+ movement” as an extremist organization.

Police searched venues across the Russian capital, including a nightclub, a male sauna, and a bar that hosted LGBTQ+ parties, under the pretext of a drug raid, local media reported.

Eyewitnesses told journalists that clubgoers’ documents were checked and photographed by the security services. They also said that managers had been able to warn patrons before police arrived.

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Russian security forces raided gay clubs and bars across Moscow Friday night, less than 48 hours after the country’s top court banned what it called the “global LGBTQ+ movement” as an extremist organization.

Police searched venues across the Russian capital, including a nightclub, a male sauna, and a bar that hosted LGBTQ+ parties, under the pretext of a drug raid, local media reported.

The ruling, which was made in response to a lawsuit filed by the Justice Ministry, is the latest step in a decadelong crackdown on LGBTQ+ rights under President Vladimir Putin, who has emphasized “traditional family values” during his 24 years in power.

Activists have noted the lawsuit was lodged against a movement that is not an official entity, and that under its broad and vague definition authorities could crack down on any individuals or groups deemed to be part of it.

Before the ruling, leading Russian human rights groups had filed a document with the Supreme Court that called the Justice Ministry lawsuit discriminatory and a violation of Russia’s constitution.

Earlier this month, Russian media quoted Deputy Justice Minister Andrei Loginov as saying that “the rights of LGBT people in Russia are protected” legally.


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@Stamau123 What were they looking for 👀
People who like getting their shirt off?

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They took lots of photos to pour over in the evidence room that night

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@Stamau123 😉 Exactly
sure Putin asked for copies - just so he could observe how unRuski they are.

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They’re creating lists of people and looking into their associated social networks. Do you want to be on a list of people your government has suddenly associated with crime and terrorism because your cousin went to a gay bar?

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@Szymon Unfortunately tactics used in the american south of course.

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People who want to pretend this couldn’t happen in America need to realise 2021 Maryland used obscenity laws banning oral sex to raid a gay bookstore and arrest people for having sex in private. That’s a somewhat rural part of one of the most progressive states, there are far too many republicans that would love to use some flimsy excuse to criminalize gay people and throw as many in jail as possible.

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Oh good, whataboutism! I was hoping someone would think to get into some whataboutism. A Russia-bashing thread is never complete without your whataboutism with regard to the US. It’s axiomatic. You can’t have one without the other.

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Fuck no let’s not do that, I’m looking for a list of people with good fashion and brains to eat, but people to oppress what kind of terrible monster would do such a thing!

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Russia looking a lot like their old enemy the Nazis these days.

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That’s impossible, Putin told us the Nazis are in Ukraine!

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I don’t know people incorrectly try to associate everything with Nazi. It’s hard to take anyone serious when they don’t even know what a Nazi is.

This isn’t dissimilar from how they were under the Soviet Union. Russians are just going to Russian.

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It’s true that authleft often looks a lot like authright, which supports the theory that political alignment is more like a circle than a line. After all, they were allies before Hitler betrayed Stalin. Since then being anti-Nazi became a big part of Russian propaganda.

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After all, they were allies before Hitler betrayed Stalin.

You’re using this to support your argument that authleft = authright, but you’re forgetting that Lenin was an agent of Germany. The alliance between Germany and Russia predates both Hitler and Stalin, and had nothing to do with whether their governments were similar in any way.

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Not so much “Russians being Russian” as it is “Fascist power structure being fascist power structure “

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It’s more accurate to say that Russia under the Soviets was also an authoritarian state.

Authoritarians by their very nature are right-wing.

Putin, the Soviets, the Nazis, Conservatives, and Fascists of all flavors are obsessed with control and conformity.

It’s far easier to control a population when everyone is exactly the same.

This is why the true left wing movements have always embraced minorities and outliers.

This of course is a call back to the very origins of the terms left and right when discussing politics. The French Revolution. A vote was held. One of the first of the new assembly. The question was, “Should the king have an absolute veto over new laws?”. Those in support of the monarchy sat to the right of the speaker’s podium. Those opposed sat to the left.

All the economic bullshit of capitalism v communism was added later. Making the Soviets, a supposedly communist nation, firmly right wing. Not that the Soviets were particularly good at actual communism. Communism sort of requires the workers to control the means of production, not the State. Workers must be working for their own profit, not the profit of the State.

Working for the profit of the State is more of a kleptocracy.

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I see you are well acquainted with the idea of redfash

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no such thing.

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The nazis criminalized, imprisoned, and eventually exterminated gay and transgender people in death camps. So yes, comparisons to nazis are fair when you criminalize lgbt people and start rounding them up in jail, preventing them from gathering together, etc etc

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Russia has always been anti-LGBT+. Stalin called them abomination and Putin is just a dimestore version of that monster.

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It’s worth remembering that for all of the numerous issues Western nations and especially the US have with freedom of speech and expression, for every convert to some racist ideology, there is also a new supporter of LGBT+. The rise in hate we see is paralleled by a rise in acceptance of the marginalized. Freeze peaches is a double edged sword and always has been.

The paradox of tolerance is certainly an issue, but the very fact we’ve evolved as a culture to the point we’re having a discussion about it says something about the benefits of that freedom. Our culture isn’t stagnant. We have the capacity for growth and change, and while the government usually maintains the social status quo, we in turn can affect what the status quo is.

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Fucking peaches.

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I was reading several months ago that there was a time in the mid ‘90s that there were a few gay clubs in Russia that were relatively unmolested by the cops, as long as the local “roof” was paid off.

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Not always, there were periods in their history of acceptance of homosexuality.

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Not always. Soviet Russia decriminalized homosexuality in 1917, and it was the first country in the world to do that. But it was recriminalized again in 1933 by Stalin.

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Fuck Stalin

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And they always have

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Ironically, Russians think they are fighting Nazis in Ukraine.

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And Ukraine’s president is Jewish.

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