Remember all those end of world disaster movies over the past 20 years? … We’re at the middle part of the movie where everyone is denying the few mad scientists who are warning everyone. We also believe that there will be some sort of super hero last minute hail Mary save that will save us from the brink of destruction … I don’t think that will happen tho :(
Except it isn’t even a few mad scientists this time
It’s a good 99% of scientists
last minute hail Mary save
Nuclear war and the subsequent nuclear winter would save us. You doomers just aren’t willing to think outside the box.
Nuclear winter will definitely cool the planet, especially if hundreds of bombs are used … but it will mean turning the planet into a snowball.
Nuclear winter will mean destroying most or all plant life for years or decades or even a century. Many people will die either from the bombing or the radiation but the majority will die slow deaths from starvation years after.
Sure there may be some wealthy important people that will hold out in bunkers and underground shelters but once their food supplies run out, they’ll have to come out, and when they do, they won’t find anything. The survivors will have to raise new generations with far less, even if they do survive living in an irradiated landscape which won’t be safe for hundreds of years.
The planet will definitely be cooler … but it won’t be liveable for humans.
This isn’t a race to save the planet by cooling it off, the planet’s fine. It’s dealt with disasters and changes far more destructive than us.
We need to do something about the climate to save ourselves and our species. Nuclear war places us in as much danger of extinction as doing nothing about climate change.
It’s ok guys a handful of people are gonna profit big time
How are WE the fools??? WE can do absolutely nothing about it and those that can will not.
How are WE the fools???
We’re the fools because capitalism was never going to fix this issue on its own, therefore it came down to the voting populace to become better-educated on this stuff, spread that awareness as much as possible, vote every year for representatives that take CC seriously, and to contact our local / regional representatives as often as possible, asking them what their solutions were.
As the primary mechanism in terms of creating such vital change, we’ve done a fraction of that over the decades. Now here we are.
You know voters don’t get to choose who, or what, is on the ballot, right?
This is a problem of structural power, not individual responsibility.
I’m talking about group responsibility, not hoping for structural power to solve issues it was never designed to.
In the States, if you’re a voter who waits until the last step of the process to vote, then yes-- you get that limited menu of selection. As we’ve seen, this is a pretty great way to fail to address the real-world problems of unsustainability.
spread that awareness as much as possible, vote every year for representatives that take CC seriously, and to contact our local / regional representatives as often as possible, asking them what their solutions were.
That’s the thing, the way governance is supposed to work, is people vote, establish governance, and the governance does all this work. It is literally what they’re paid for. If we expect the citizens to do 100% of the work, and their own jobs, we might as well just abolish the entire US government and just govern by some kind of absolute democracy Reddit upvote system.
To the vote every year point, it doesn’t work anyways because all the choices are shit and just looking out for their own interests. One can’t vote for a magic candidate that doesn’t exist. Every billionaire and their corporations makes sure to broadcast constant streams of information at the general population to keep them confused and spending money. Android vs iPhone instead of, “why can’t I change my own battery?” Ford vs Tesla instead of, “do I even need a car?” Shitty medical care to ensure that we live in constant fear that our next injury might mean losing our home and living on the street.
Don’t try to pass blame onto the citizens of a nation that ensures the citizenry too busy trying to survive to micro-manage everything.
Unfortunately that’s a rather idealised view of the way American politics work. In reality, we already know from long experience that American politico-capitalism runs towards exploitation and greed when left to its own devices, as we saw with the monopolies, the robber barons, the horrific exploitation of immigrant labor as seen in the meatpacking industry and mining fields, etc, etc.
Yes, I do hear what you’re saying, but reality is reality. However the system was ‘supposed’ to work as an ideal, in fact it left us in a horrible situation, one in which the primary difference makers were ourselves. Let’s also not forget that if the system is ‘rigged’ the way it is, and we carelessly buy in to it ourselves as consumers, then not only are we failing to hold politicians accountable, but we’re also the ones cooperating in feeding the impending catastrophe of unsustainability… across a range of issues stacked on top of CC.
There’s also the fact that with America endorsing a pro-big business / wealthy scoundrel such as Nixon, leading to an even worse scoundrel in Reagan, and then failing to recognise the wheels in motion resultant from all that in the 50+yrs since, why then, there’s another way the body of American people have essentially failed to make a critical difference.
Is there some useful purpose for the @blahj spambot polluting discussion threads?
I cannot seem to block it, on Kbin right now. So… it is teaching me the error of my ways, I suppose? :-P
(I regret choosing Kbin over Lemmy, and may need to switch if this kind of thing is going to happen constantly. Even now I have strong hopes for Kbin’s future but… it just isn’t ready yet.)