I’m looking for a new mouse with MMO side buttons, and was wondering what Lemmy thought about it.
My current mouse is a cheapo Red Dragon M901. I love the ergononics, but the durability of the scroll wheel isn’t great. I had to replace the mouse about a year ago because the scroll wheel died (really stiff + wouldn’t click), and now this one is starting to show the same symptoms.
I would like wireless (esp. bluetooth), but I’m a little skeptical about it because my last wireless mouse (EVGA X20) had really inconsistent wakeup. Sometimes it would fall asleep while I was reading something, and I’d have to shake it for 2-5 seconds to wake it back up. That’s extremely annoying :/
The razer naga mice seem like the top tier stuff, but they’re very pricey and my experience with razer hardware reliability in the past has not been great.
Also I’m a linux user, so if the mouse comes with a linux compatible configuration utility, that’s a plus (open source? that’s a plus plus even if the mouse itself is mid :P)
I would never trust a Razer product again, I’ve owned two of their Nagas and they both failed (double-clicking issue) within a year. Everyone in my WoW guild who have experience with MMO nice report the same problem with Razer mice.
I personally have the Scimitar, recently bought a new one as my old one from ~2019 (I think is when I bought it) had the inverse problem; holding right click to move camera would “drop” the hold randomly.
I own a lot of Corsair products and iCue is probably the least garbage peripheral software I’ve used over the years.
I’ve also had a lot of problems with many mice from both Razer and Logitech double clicking. I ended up with an ASUS Gladius II as the switches are replacable without soldering, and ordered spares off AliExpress. Not an MMO mouse though, sadly.
This has been my experience as well. I love the Naga for comfort and function, but after my second one broke I swore off them as well. Granted, this was some years ago now, so maybe their build quality had improved since then.
Take a look at the Logitech G600. It has 12 side buttons and a shift mode that lets you map 12 more actions to those buttons. It has onboard memory rather than needing a companion app. Linux compatibility is great as it can be programmed with Piper. Only downside is it’s a bit large if you have smaller hands.
I would check the mice that are compatible with libratbag/Piper. I believe Logitech have a MMO style mouse with 12ish side buttons on the support list but I would need to double check.
With that said, Logitech have been known to use shitty switches in some of their G series mice. I had to resolder my G903 ones, and I took the opportunity to make other modifications (larger battery + glass skates).
I don’t believe these mice support Bluetooth in addition to their proprietary 2.4 protocol either, so that might be a bit of a deal breaker, though I personally am not too keen on BT for wireless peripherals.
I’ve had two Razer Naga mice over the years for playing FFXIV. It works really well, and the first I bought still actually works - I just wanted the swappable plates of the Naga Trinity for when I was playing other games. I find them really solid to be honest and would definitely buy a third if I need to.
I can’t really speak for other mice, as I’ve not used others.
I’ve been very happy with my Corsair Scimitar Elite. It’s not wireless though, but I use a Razer V3 bungee to keep the cable convenient. I tried Logitech’s cheaper MMO mouse first and it felt cramped, chinsey, and the side buttons felt sharp and jagged. The Scimitar solved all those problems for me. Before that, I used a Logitech G604, which I loved, but the switches failed just after the warranty expired - not an uncommon problem for those Omron switches. Hopefully I have better luck with the Scimitar’s. So far so good.
I’m a windows-using rube, and I know Corsair’s iCue won’t run on Linux because it requires .net, but if you have dual boot or a VM or access to a windows PC, then you can edit profiles in Windows and save them to the mouse hardware. The only thing you’ll miss is auto-changing profiles when you open an application, so be sure to bind a mouse key to switch profiles, and assign RGB that lets you know which profile you’re in. I assume this method would apply to any mouse with hardware profiles.
I prefer wireless mice too, so I also use a M65 Ultra for FPS games. I find myself using the MMO mouse for desktop though, because having page up/down and home/end on the mouse is great.
Here’s the thing about Bluetooth: it’s usually slightly laggy and will often take inconsistent time to connect. It’s generally not great for gaming because of the lag especially. That’s why gaming mice have a usb dongle that uses faster sample rate (Corsair has Slipstream, Logitech has Lightspeed, etc.) I’ve used both of those and they always wake up in <1s. When I switch to a simple Bluetooth mouse for my work laptop, I definitely feel the lag. If you’re short on usb ports, you should have no problems using a wireless mouse dongle on a hub.
