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Last I checked cars exist with more regulations than most heavy machinery. I don’t disagree with your position but this is a poor argument.

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Yeah, my uncle has a back hoe and I don’t think he’s had any training on it.

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I’ll chime in… I have a backhoe and I assure you I’ve never had any training.

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Leave my mother out of this.

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Pretty sure your uncle doesn’t drive his back hoe 120km/h down a public road. Also atleast where I live back hoe equipped tractor needs to be licensed, driven by tractor licensed person to travel down public road. If it isn’t so, it needs to be trailer loaded from work siteto another.

Also tycally to commercially operate heavy machine either industry regulation or just business sanity demands trained operators.

I would note, you don’t need drivers license to drive a car on private closed road. Go crush oneself in car volt on private yard all one wants, the issue is untrained person driving on public road endangers others. That is why there is also demand for traffic insurance for the other parties damages, not ones own damage.

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You say that like theres some kinda regulations on heavy machinery

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That’s what the “don’t take when operating heavy machinery” labels on medications are referring to for most people, I’m not sure how many people actually realize that though, and that’s a scary thought.

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Most people are like “oh that’s fine it’s not like I’m a pilot or a nuclear engineer.” And then proceed to drive their car at 120 km/h on the highway.

Come to think of it, why not just make it crystal clear and say “don’t drive when taking this medicine” on the label?

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That’s what my melatonin pills say.

“Do not drive or use machinery for 5 hours after taking melatonin.”

Although I follow the directions I swear the supplements are 95% placebo.

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To top it off, ebikes and escooters have speed limiters or are outright banned in many places, yet cars never have speed limiters in them.

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Cars 100% have limiters on them. Required by law.

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Fun fact: different places have different laws but the same internet!

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Totally not required by law

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In what way?

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What law? There is no such law in either the US or Canada (US because the internet is generally US-Centric, Canada because that’s where I am)

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The vehicles do have governors, but it’s more about whats safe for the vehicle and its tire rating than road speeds.

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You need a license, registration, inspection, and insurance to drive a car.

Literally none of those are speed limiters.

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  1. all cars have speed limiters
  2. we’re talking about regulations, not limiters.
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Forklifts are typically heavier than cars, easier to tip, come with piercing forks and, are operated in pedestrian heavy areas much more frequently. You can be certified a lot quicker and easier than it takes to get a driver’s license, and typically you won’t be the one registering and insuring the equipment. And that’s just one specific type of heavy equipment.

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the hard part of learning to drive isn’t learning how to drive, it’s learning how to drive accounting for the fact that everybody sucks at driving

that’s not really an issue with a forklift

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Forklifts […] are operated in pedestrian heavy areas much more frequently [than cars].

???

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What are you asking for?

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Cars have rev limiters

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This is to protect the engines. You can get a car up above 100mph easily enough.

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Every car made has a speed limiter that’s usually capped at the rated speed for the tires.

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E-bikes should be banned on bikeways, they are motorcycles not bikes

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That depends on the type of ebike, surely? Here in the UK/EU ebikes are limited to 250w power, motor only active when pedaling, and a max speed of 25kph. I regularly get over 25kph on my acoustic bike, should I also be banned from bike ways?

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Do cars (like other heavy machinery) not need a licence of some sort to use where you live?

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It’s trivially easy to get a driver’s license in US and Canada, and you don’t need regular retesting.

So yes, but that’s not the point.

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