It is endlessly frustrating that companies have universally decided that they won’t let people say “no” to stuff, ever. There are no longer options to reject stupid-ass new “features”, only postponement until next time you open the app/website/program. They’ll continue pestering you for the rest of your life. I realize that my frustration may be a little over-zealous, but we deal with these interfaces dozens of times per day and this is user hostile behavior. There isn’t really an option to just use another service or program, since the entire technology landscape has been commandeered by a few major corporations, and they all enact the same shitty things as a group.

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You should be pissed off! It’s software paternalism, utilizing new speak, removing your vocabulary and agency.

Every time you’re given a dark pattern dialogue where it says " would you like this thing that you don’t like? Yes absolutely, later " the developers don’t respect you, they’re trying to say you don’t know what you want, they’re using propaganda on you…

It’s like the classic police interrogation question " is that when you stopped beating your wife?" Yes and no are both traps. So some edgy developer is trying to trap you with oh but you consented (can send it) to seeing this later. When it’s really user hostile dark patterns using forced language to remove your agency as a human being. It’s fucking scummy

This is why I love open source software, not only is it highly unlikely for you to see a dark pattern, if you do you can fix it!

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can send it

Consented?

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Oh my god! The first organic boneappletea I’ve seen on lemmy

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Guilty as charged! I use voice to text typing on my cell phone. Google does love its bone apple tees

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Yes, the most egregious one that really grinds my gears is on the front page of YouTube, where it will show a shelf with YouTube shorts with an X top right. If you click it, it will hide the shelf and say “Okay, we’ll hide shorts for 30 days” which is something no body would ever mean by pressing that button and it’s such patronizing, insidious bullshit.

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I freaking hate Shorts, and the persistence with which YouTube attempts to shove that crap down your throat is absolutely infuriating.

YouTube also recently made the thumbnails larger, which is also really bad as it makes it more difficult to see what videos are in your subscription feed (even moreso with all the shorts clogging it up).

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Apparently it’s where the real money is. People doom-scrolling through an endless stream of crap.

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I’ve been watching shorts lately and now EVERYTHING is about shorts. I don’t ever get the little x anymore to remove the annoying fucking shelf anymore. Why does all this shit have to suck so much.

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Same. I wish it wasn’t there.

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TikTok makes tons of dollaroos with shorts, now Google wants a slice of the pie. “Me too, me too”. It would be funny if it wasn’t so annoying.

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YouTube Revanced is the way (Android). Just disable shorts or anything else you don’t like and live happily ever after.

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Is it a little more finished now?

When the original vanced got stopped, I could never get the patcher for revanced to work on my phone, and it wasn’t even clear what the issue was. just a lot of errors and glitchy youtube.

I’ve just beeing using firefox with ublock, but its not very convenient.

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If it’s not, NewPipe still works like a charm

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Yes, I’ve had a better time with it since then. I also couldn’t get it to work initially but now I’ve used it on two phones and it works fine. The trick is to use a slightly older release of the YT apk.

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From my experience, yes. The initial setup was kind of annoying, but it’s been almost entirely smooth sailing from there.

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Wow, you used to be able to just completely disable shorts in the settings.

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At least it shows the shorts of the creators that you are subbed to.
I usually only watch the one on the front page if I can recognize them in the thumbnail or it actually seems interesting and never ever scroll them.

My only gripe:

  • Youtubers use shorts for the short sketches instead of actual short videos
  • Only 60s long
  • Vertical instead of horizontal
  • Both rot my brain. :(
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And you can’t see which ones are from your subscriptions and which ones aren’t, right!

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Yup.
But if, I usually only watch the once I recognize. Those random brain rotting shorts are very noticeable from the ones I usually consume.

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You know, I don’t think I’ve ever even been the the front page of YouTube.

It’s like Stack Overflow in that regard. Google just takes you to pages in it, and then you leave again.

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Use NextDNS and you can block everything except for ads that are served as content, like Facebook does.

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Use portmaster and rethinkdns to use those filter lists no matter which DNS you choose (I use dnscrypt BTW)

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No he didn’t. Why are you libeling him?

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Probably because of this. The commenter overstated the situation, but there are valid and serious criticisms to be made.

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No he didn’t. He said some things that were blatantly misreported, and then he was crucified without anyone bothering to notice that he didn’t actually say what was accused of saying.

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I think another issue here is a side effect of the move to Software As A Service. With installed software you could run an old version nearly forever, but with SASS you’re always on the latest version

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And this is one of the best reasons to categorically refuse to rent software.

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Agreed. I hate anything auto updating on it’s own because changes can break or remove features at any time.

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8 points

Nagware was huge 20 years ago, hell Evernote still does it. They move the nag around each time as well.

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Every time I go to the ATM to get cash it shows me an ad for a service and the options are “Yes” and “No thanks.”

I am forced to choose one. I am forced to thank them for showing me an ad before they give me my own money.

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It would be nice if there was a “fuck-off forever” button.

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I would much rather just see my bank balance.

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It’s called a baseball bat.

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Change banks

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Jesus where are you from? I never heard of ads in an atm, that scares the sht out of me, something I am trusting my personal data with could end up selling it or using it for ads.

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I hate this specifically for one of the corner stores at my house. When I use tap-to-pay (or I assume swiping a card), it gives me a “Would you like to register for our rewards program? Selecting no will not impact your ability to complete this purchase” prompt…

Except then I’m forced to actually physically click “No”, which circumvents the whole point of not having to touch the POS terminal when using tap-to-pay…

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Tap to pay isn’t there to stop you from interacting with the terminal though? I mean yeah it was handy during the pandemic to now have to touch things many other people touch but that wasn’t the main idea behind tap to pay.

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Yep, my apologies I should’ve been a bit more clear - a lot of stores during the pandemic put up signs saying that they preferred for you to use tap-to-pay as a preventative / safety measure, and this store is one of them.

Of course, even during the peak point of the pandemic that prompt was still there, and is still there… and due to the medication that I’m on I am somewhat immunocompromised so I would prefer to not have to touch the screen since everyone who pays using anything that isn’t cash has to also touch the display.

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Tap to pay is there for banks to eliminate the last money transaction they weren’t taking a cut of: cash payments.

They haven’t been trying to get this shit going for almost 2 decades because the convenience othe their customers is their driving motivation…

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