14 points

Article title is “Renting alone in Miami is too expensive for Gen Z”.

That aside, it does have some interesting statistics about Gen Z moving back home and Boomers moving to apartments.

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21 points

How many people are renting alone? I dunno anyone who can afford that.

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5 points

Depends on the part of the country

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Typical rent in my city is like $1000-1500 for an entire 2 bedroom house. Even my brokest friends have their own place.

San Francisco or NYC? Enjoy your 150sqft shithole for $3k/mo.

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3 points

Yes. Rent is cheaper in undesirable places to live. This is not surprising to anyone.

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8 points

My cousin does it, but he makes 6 figures, so hes not exactly the most struggling person. Basically if you work a regular ass job, the likely hood of being able to afford rent alone is pretty low.

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Both my gf and I could pay our expenses on a single salary and we’re far from rich, we just made the decision to live in a town of under 10k instead of a city of millions…

Edit: I find it very funny that I get downvoted every time I mention that living comfortably outside major city centers is possible… If everyone that’s now 100% remote moved to smaller towns, cities might even become affordable to live in!

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84 points

It was too expensive for millennials so, not too surprised to hear that.

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20 points

Same for GenX. We all had roommates or lived with SOs.

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I rented a 3-bedroom apartment in the early 2010s for $1250 with some friends. I just checked and similar apartments in that neighborhood are $2500-3900 now

I agree that renting alone wasn’t an option for our generations but it’s become even worse. Pay has not kept up with housing costs at all

[Edit] I just checked and $1250 in 2010 has the same value has $1,775.54 now

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11 points

Man one my first apartments in 2001 was 360 a month for one bedroom. This was in a small town Texas.

Today same rent is 1300 plus. That fucking nuts and doest jive with inflation.

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8 points

I think they need to have roommates in the bedrooms now. I saw a basement apartment in Englewood, CO for $1650 this week. Garage extra.

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7 points

Yes, I agree.

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8 points

You’re just me, but Kbin though.

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20 points

It was too expensive for Gen X too. I think we all started out with room mates.

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It was too expensive for Gen X too. I think we all started out with room mates.

Yup.

Up to 4 of them at one point.

After a bunch of years of that, my first solo place was a windowless 2 room basement “suite” in an old house behind a gas station.

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3 points

2nd story two-bedroom behind a grocery store for me!

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46 points

Owning a home on a single income is too expensive.

Owning a home is too expensive, period.

Renting a home on a single income is too expensive. <–we are here

Renting a home is too expensive.

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How long did we spend outside of those possibilities? 20 years? 30 years? Before WW2 most people didn’t own a single family house after WW2 and for about two or three decades white people lived the American dream, and we’re back to what’s been the norm forever.

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7 points

Okay, and we should just not dream of big tomorrows? What kind of mindset is this?

We are supposed to dream, discover and build, not grovel, work, and ask for breadcrumbs. We have the resources, this is a hoarding issue.

We also used to have a family structure that would support raising children, and much more free time in a lot of cases.

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A single family home for everyone is unsustainable though, going back isn’t a bad thing and the family structure you’re talking about also existed because people had multiple generations under the same roof.

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1 point

Let’s hope we move further up the list rather than slide further down

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I mean… I couldn’t afford my own apartment until I was in my late 20s and all the places I lived in until my 30s were shitholes.

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Okay, how old are you now? Give me a ball park?

Also, does everyone have to have a shitty time because you did?

Your experiences don’t invalidate other people’s.

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I don’t think they were trying to invalidate the experience of Gen Z. Just expanding by saying this has been an issue for decades, this isn’t ‘news’ to anyone under 40.

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You’re not complaining that things haven’t gotten better; your complaining that renting single is something other generations had which has been taken away. It isn’t.

No generation has had a majority able to rent alone until they enter mid career. I’m middle-class, American Gen-X, and I had the same experience op did.

Housing has gotten worse. I wasn’t able to afford a house until I was in my 30’s, and had a wife with her own income. The boomers were an exeption, not the rule.

I do feel as if housing is even less affordable than for Gen X, and is getting steadily worse, but renting has always been this way.

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Also, does everyone have to have a shitty time because you did?

Literally putting words in my mouth.

I’m in my late 30s. Regardless that’s a bit of a leap on your part to suggest that sharing my experience is invalidating others. It might be somewhat invalidating the narrative the article is putting forward however, but that’s probably warranted.

Point is that this has been a problem for a long time. Is it worse now? Sure, rents are even more insane than when I was growing up and pay still sucks. But needing room mates was a thing for me and the majority of my friends growing up.

This isn’t a new problem like the article seems to suggest. Also historically there’s a greater precedent for people living in shared spaces than not, if we’re being fair.

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